Ellafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17339503/mike-ashley-middlesbrough-compensation-Derby-takeover/amp/ The Scarlet Pimpernel and May Contain Nuts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ellafella said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17339503/mike-ashley-middlesbrough-compensation-Derby-takeover/amp/ The links corrupt. Probably as related to The Sun. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ellafella said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17339503/mike-ashley-middlesbrough-compensation-Derby-takeover/amp/ If this true then Mr Ashley is not yet put off. Actually talking far better always than mouthing off using social media and other sources. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Im scared to death for this week ahead yes we had the euphoria of yesterday and boy didnt they do us proud. but i fear if nothing is sorted in the next 48hours then its bye bye manager and skipper. all with the red dogs waiting for us at the end of it. god help us Derby4Me, Shipley Ram and Gaspode 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliegeorge1962 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Couple of seasons ago we were fighting Villa for promotion now look at us. Now we 2 weeks to get our act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The question is do Gibson and the other person really want to be the people who ensured Derby are liquidated? We know how we got to this point but those claims seem to be the sticking point in our survival. Now the momentum on this is building a little do they really want that backlash for them and their clubs? IslandExile and Kathcairns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, CBRammette said: The question is do Gibson and the other person really want to be the people who ensured Derby are liquidated? We know how we got to this point but those claims seem to be the sticking point in our survival. Now the momentum on this is building a little do they really want that backlash for them and their clubs? Well as has been said on another thread,, if Boro claim is a "football creditor" in the eyes of EFL, it ranks higher than the HMRC claim. So even if it doesn't bring about liquidation , it could lead to HMRC getting less money. All this from champagne socialist Gibson. What a hypocrite. Ellafella, strawhillram, RoyMac5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 25 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Well as has been said on another thread,, if Boro claim is a "football creditor" in the eyes of EFL, it ranks higher than the HMRC claim. So even if it doesn't bring about liquidation , it could lead to HMRC getting less money. All this from champagne socialist Gibson. What a hypocrite. This is and has been the crux of the matter all along. If the EFL came out and said the claims aren't as a 'football creditor' until proven then things would look different! Ellafella and The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: This is and has been the crux of the matter all along. If the EFL came out and said the claims aren't as a 'football creditor' until proven then things would look different! They aren’t even a creditor, let alone a football creditor. Ramarena, RoyMac5 and r_wilcockson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, SaffyRam said: They aren’t even a creditor, let alone a football creditor. Well yes, but you know what I mean. Unless there is something else holding up our exit from administration then this could be dealt with by the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Half Fan Half Biscuit Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 40 minutes ago, CBRammette said: The question is do Gibson and the other person really want to be the people who ensured Derby are liquidated? We know how we got to this point but those claims seem to be the sticking point in our survival. Now the momentum on this is building a little do they really want that backlash for them and their clubs? TBH I don’t think they would give it a second thought. DCFC would be gone and they would carry on. Won’t have actually lost anything themselves. And would there really be a backlash? Can’t see anyone in the national media currently investigating the veracity/legality of the claims - too interested in the PL. Have DET even expressed an opinion or are they just regurgitating tweets/articles they find online as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Half Fan Half Biscuit said: TBH I don’t think they would give it a second thought. DCFC would be gone and they would carry on. Won’t have actually lost anything themselves. And would there really be a backlash? Can’t see anyone in the national media currently investigating the veracity/legality of the claims - too interested in the PL. Have DET even expressed an opinion or are they just regurgitating tweets/articles they find online as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambam Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) There’s a real danger of public unrest at the forthcoming Boro fixture. if we still exist. Edited January 16, 2022 by Rambam r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rambam said: There’s a real danger of public unrest at the forthcoming Boro fixture. if we still exist. Hope so on both counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Ashley talking to Gibson sounds a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Half Fan Half Biscuit said: And would there really be a backlash? Yes, me. Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I still don't think Gibson took this action expecting to actually get any money out of it (or certainly not £45m) - he's all about proving his point (on how wronged boro were) and punishing Derby (because the efl did not punish us to his satisfaction). So, ideally, like the sale of PP, a ruling of total vindication of DCFC wuld be nice. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derby8 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I still don't think Gibson took this action expecting to actually get any money out of it (or certainly not £45m) - he's all about proving his point (on how wronged boro were) and punishing Derby (because the efl did not punish us to his satisfaction). So, ideally, like the sale of PP, a ruling of total vindication of DCFC wuld be nice. Looks like Ashley taking a pragmatic approach to the various Derby t/o issues to see how much the total cost amounts to solving them all, then taking a view as to whether he'll run with it. Sounds like a sensible way forward. Derby4Me, Andicis, r_wilcockson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, derby8 said: Looks like Ashley taking a pragmatic approach to the various Derby t/o issues to see how much the total cost amounts to solving them all, then taking a view as to whether he'll run with it. Sounds like a sensible way forward. Yeah. That's probably the actual best way forward. I just don't want Gibson to claim it as victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I still don't think Gibson took this action expecting to actually get any money out of it (or certainly not £45m) - he's all about proving his point (on how wronged boro were) and punishing Derby (because the efl did not punish us to his satisfaction). So, ideally, like the sale of PP, a ruling of total vindication of DCFC wuld be nice. So he doesn't want the money then? His point is noted, why hasn't he backed off? And Wycombe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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