RadioactiveWaste Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: Wouldn’t give him the steam off of my pi*s Wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 27 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. Hey buddy have you got a light? AbuDerbyDave and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinburgh ram Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just a thought, why isn’t Gibson trying to sue Villa? They cheated too according to his logic and only finished 3 points above Boro? strawhillram, Caerphilly Ram, Andicis and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Just now, Edinburgh ram said: Just a thought, why isn’t Gibson trying to sue Villa? They cheated too according to his logic and only finished 3 points above Boro? They weren't even charged with failing P&S They aren't in administration so can't be bullied into agreeing some sort of compensation Caerphilly Ram, Andicis, RoyMac5 and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 But what’s stopping a takeover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Gibson's case The bookies odds of teams going up via the playoffs were: Leeds 15/8 Aston Villa 9/4 West Brom 10/3 Derby County 9/2 The implied probability therefore being 32.5%, 28.8%, 21.5% and 17% respectively. Given Middlesbrough had a weaker squad than us (hence finishing lower in the league), their odds of going up would have been lower, but we'll stick with 17% for now. In their last season in the PL, they made a profit of £11.5m, so it would be reasonable to assume they would achieve a similar figure if they had gone up again. Instead, they posted a £30.7m loss. But, don't forget this was a Covid impacted season, so their losses were about £5m lower than they otherwise would have been. This means there was a net impact on Gibson's bank balance of £37.2m. With odds of less than 17% (according to the bookies) the maximum he should be entitled to is £6.3m. However, with Derby out of the picture, other teams would be fancying themselves in the run-in, not least Bristol City who we beat and pretty much ended their hopes of reaching the playoffs. Forest and Swansea weren't too far behind either. At the very least, this would have halved the chances of Boro placing 6th at the end of the 18/19 season. This means £3.15m is the absolute maximum to be awarded. That other fella's case Wycombe claim we should have had the points deduction applied last season. For this to have happened, the deduction must have been implemented in a timely manner, well before the end of the 20/21 season. With nothing to play for on the final day, Derby would have almost certainly lost to Sheffield Wednesday. 1% of £6m (£60k) to be handed out here. Steve How Hard? and Foxy Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramtastic ones Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 13/01/2022 at 10:41, Red Ram said: Have you got a link for this please? Daily telegraph if I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 He's going to succeed isn't he? Gibson's hold over the cowards at the EFL is going to finish us. I know nuffin, Gritstone Ram and strawhillram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Gibson and his EFLmates celebrating todays news Tiverton Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 are the EFL insisting that Gibson follows their rules as defined below when Gibson first tried it on or have I missed the tribunal as per the regulations ELF V Middlesborough Tribunal 13. It is accepted b both MFC and DCFC that it remains permissible for MFC to bring a separate claim by way of arbitration for compensation from DCFC. The EFL regulations constitute a multi-party agreement between (among others) the EFL and the Clubs. If MFC are able to bring a good claim for breech of Regulations by DCFC the effect of which has caused the loss, they can bring such a claim and no estopple will arise as a result of the Disciplinary Commission decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 On 13/01/2022 at 12:10, RadioactiveWaste said: The EFL are not going to take a public position of supporting Boro or Wycombe's actions, but a lack of a position against them amounts to implied approval. Why ? Any regulator with an ounce of sense would say exactly what the EFl has said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Chellaston Ram said: But what’s stopping a takeover? Can’t exit administration whilst the claims exist. Until Q and their expensive advisers work out a way, not their strength apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Can’t exit administration whilst the claims exist. Until Q and their expensive advisers work out a way, not their strength apparently Sorry, I don’t understand how the EFL can legally stop an entity from exiting administration. If I was a creditor of the club I’d be furious. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Surely theres virtually no chance whatsoever that Middlesborough or Wycome would win a case against Derby as it was the EFL who decided what actions were taken in retrospect to any breaches, so their gripe should clearly be with them if they have a problem? Don't get it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Can’t exit administration whilst the claims exist. Until Q and their expensive advisers work out a way, not their strength apparently Where does it say that, missed reading it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiverton Ram Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: They weren't even charged with failing P&S They aren't in administration so can't be bullied into agreeing some sort of compensation So he's just trying to exploit us now we are in administration that's pretty sad if he was so bothered he would have done it at the time he's waited and waited to exploit us when we are in serious trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Where does it say that, missed reading it? Between the lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBW Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 "The difficulty and currently, in our view, the last remaining significant obstacle is to deal with certain claims that are very much disputed but which we are being advised by the EFL cannot be currently compromised notwithstanding statute says otherwise" I am reading that as Q alleging the EFL are breaching their own rules? Although it's a terribly put together sentence. SaffyRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. That's a terrible thing to say. I would help him out, but only because my piss is 99% alcohol, and 1% kerosene. Tiverton Ram, Andicis, RadioactiveWaste and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) DET report says Ashley frustrated but will not bid until the Boro. Wycombe so called claims have been resolved. i don’t think The admin team have the expertise to win or the willingness to be able to do that. And do they have funds to get legal help? it seems like Ashley is trying to help Boro and Wycombe get a cash settlement, and then he still won’t bid anyway. Is he a mate of Gibson? Edited January 14, 2022 by StrawHillRam RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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