Tyler Durden Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: That post seems to have been submitted by somebody called Sean Seal. Seems a bit Crazy to me, as if we're never gonna survive unless..... That news is a Killer Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 They are only due with the EFL today, so don't expect them to be on Companies House soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Surely for the embargo to be lifted we don't only need to submit the accounts but also pay the HMRC? Seems unlikely both of those will happen today unless I've missed something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jubbs said: They are only due with the EFL today, so don't expect them to be on Companies House soon That's 2 different things, I think. I doubt very much the restated accounts will appear on Companies House - I'd be surprised if they even allow companies to restate accounts years after the fact. They'll be submitted to the EFL, probably just as revised P&S statements, and we'll probably never see them. The other overdue accounts (18/19 and 19/20 IIRC) don't have to be approved by the EFL or anything, they'll go straight to Companies House when we're ready to submit them. The EFL will only get involved if they look like they'll be close to the FFP thresholds. Jubbs, r_wilcockson, Rammy03 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Lander said: Say no more. I think Mark Fish is more our age bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1976 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 36 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said: That post seems to have been submitted by somebody called Sean Seal. Seems a bit Crazy to me, as if we're never gonna survive unless..... ??? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jubbs said: They are only due with the EFL today, so don't expect them to be on Companies House soon Can you actually re submit accounts to companies house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve How Hard? said: I'd prefer it if they both just varnished off the face of the earth. Class pure class ? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I would say some form of statement would be welcome, i.e. are we in breach of P&S or not. If the accounts have been submitted then we will know if that's the case or not. I think it would be just be good etiquette from the club as fans are obviously invested in knowing. Although, the way the club have been recently, it's almost as though the fans are a burden put upon the club as they want ridiculous things like... open lines of communication, season tickets and the ticket office open. r_wilcockson, RAM1966, Derbados and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Hopefully find out today as looking at social media "rumours" it's ranging from -6 to -18 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve How Hard? said: That post seems to have been submitted by somebody called Sean Seal. Seems a bit Crazy to me, as if we're never gonna survive unless..... Just seems like an aklumulation of previous rumours Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) Is there ANY chance we would not put accounts in today? Just can’t see it even if we know Gibson and his EFL puppets won’t like them still. Edited August 24, 2021 by Dean (hick) Saunders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Is there ANY chance we would not put accounts in today? Just can’t see it even if we know Gibson and his EFL puppets won’t like them still. It could of course be delayed again ? Dean (hick) Saunders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) No, Gibson’s been to PP now, they’re safe to deal with us as he sees fit without recriminations. Edited August 24, 2021 by Pearl Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lander Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Could we get a points addition for the unnecessary embargo and stress that has gone along with it? Thanks EFL. Rammy03, Carl Sagan, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 If you could refresh my memory ? Today is D Day due to a Rooney comment to the BBC and a source of @Ellafella which sounds reliable saying a 3 point deduction is incoming? Any other information? I know Nixon said would help if accounts were submitted. Has JP tweeted owt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Hopefully find out today as looking at social media "rumours" it's ranging from -6 to -18 ?? We wouldn't find out a point deduction now anyway, if we even get one, as the weight of the point deduction is based on how badly we breached P&S and seemingly is open to interpretation. I would imagine a -18 point deduction would need to be somewhere in the region of a £160-180m loss over the three years, so you can dismiss that as nonsense. Sheffield Wednesday got a -6 point deduction for a £66m loss over three years. We wouldn't even get anywhere near that. I believe Reading haven't received a point deduction for their breach as of yet. I'm still confident we won't be in any breach of P&S but ultimately we don't know exactly how our amortisation policy will shake out. A minor breach, at the very, very worst, so wouldn't be surprised to see us only pick up a -3 or a fine. Betty Swollocks, Rammy03 and r_wilcockson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swollocks Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Personally I cant see it being a deduction. I think we might get a Suspended penalty and warned as to our future conduct, but that`s about it. We have been cleared of any serious wrongdoing twice already and only found guilty of a minor accounting technicality. The accounts were already submitted and passed as accurate by a qualified chartered accountant and thus accepted by HMRC. Rammy03, Ramarena, RoyMac5 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I doubt we'll hear anything today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I doubt we'll hear anything today Probably right. But we will have another 15 pages on here talking about what the nothing might be… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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