uttoxram75 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: Always liked Stoke mwram1973, David Graham Brown and kevinhectoring 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncredibleKoosh Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Agreed that is probably that now. I'm sure they will keep going until it's impossible though. Three wins and Reading not getting another point and it's still on ? Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just now, mwram1973 said: lets take the -15 now Strange but the offer has suddenly gone ! Gritstone Tup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 9 points from safety, with 18 available. Hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 We're all going on a League One tour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 We'll fight till the end DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 15 deduction so we can move on and start afresh next season. Edited April 5, 2022 by scout's dad More meaning jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Own goal anorl, sickening init. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I'd like Barnsley to overhaul Reading if we can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 That’s a big blow. I think now we are entering miracle territory. Reading need a point per game to reach 43 points. We’d need five wins from six to reach the same amount. The sad fact is that Reading have ground out results at the worst possible time for us. 8 points from their last 12 compared to 4 points from 12 for us. You have to hold your hands up and say fair play. Fine margins but hopefully it’s a lesson to Rooney and the boys. When you’re on top, make it count. Sadly we haven’t seen enough of that in recent weeks. But hopefully the boys can lift themselves and end the season strongly. David Graham Brown, Rammy03, Red_Dawn and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncredibleKoosh Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 It needed a miracle from the start - that's never changed. Rammy03, Foreveram, David Graham Brown and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Not a great deal has changed in my view. Yes we need a miracle but I had Reading down as winning this game beforehand. We need to win at least 4 of our last 6 and hope that Reading go on an awful run. I can see them drawing a couple then losing two. If we win our games in that same time we can take it down to the wire. It's very unlikely but it's still possible. We have to keep going until it's mathematically impossible. We'll fight till the end. Foreveram and uttoxram75 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 We were never ever staying up this season as soon as that 21 point deduction kicked in. The fact that we're now only talking that our chances have gone with 6 games to go is a testament to Rooney, the staff and the players for given absolutely everything. A 21 point deduction and 2 wins out of 20 away games really gives us no chance. If only we'd won a couple more away. Hopefully we get a 15 point deduction now and can start afresh next season. jimtastic56, Abu Derby, BramcoteRam84 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jourdan said: That’s a big blow. I think now we are entering miracle territory. Reading need a point per game to reach 43 points. We’d need five wins from six to reach the same amount. The sad fact is that Reading have ground out results at the worst possible time for us. 8 points from their last 12 compared to 4 points from 12 for us. You have to hold your hands up and say fair play. Fine margins but hopefully it’s a lesson to Rooney and the boys. When you’re on top, make it count. Sadly we haven’t seen enough of that in recent weeks. But hopefully the boys can lift themselves and end the season strongly. Agree to a point but fact we even had a sniff was down to Reading being dire. Being realistic 44 points is a poor return but if we reached that, in reality it would be 65 points , well in top half with a squad that to be quite frank has been cut off at the knees. They have had a run when it matters after being poor for months,nothing we can do about that. If we can get to 40 points even 37 points that’s a more than creditable season with this squad that was tipped for relegation before any points deductions. Indy, jimtastic56 and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, IncredibleKoosh said: It needed a miracle from the start - that's never changed. We needed top 10 form in the last 15 games and for one of Hull or Reading to stutter. Neither has come to pass. So it’s now that we need a miracle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I must admit , I did not think Paul Ince could pull off the new manager bounce. But he has used his experience to turn it round and could be getting a full time job out of it. Wolfie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Mckram said: EFL currently waiting for the Reading result to decide whether we can have the 15 points this season or next… Reading win = points deduction next season Reading lose = we will think about it depending on how you do this Saturday. EFL aren’t thinking of anything of the sort. We dont have a preferred bidder yet, maybe we’ll get one without the -15pt ortherwise it’ll be next season because we’ll be relegated before all this is sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said: Agree to a point but fact we even had a sniff was down to Reading being dire. Being realistic 44 points is a poor return but if we reached that, in reality it would be 65 points , well in top half with a squad that to be quite frank has been cut off at the knees. They have had a run when it matters after being poor for months,nothing we can do about that. If we can get to 40 points even 37 points that’s a more than creditable season with this squad that was tipped for relegation before any points deductions. What we really needed was for it to be a low tide at the bottom, meaning a number of teams at the bottom of the table being really poor and having a low points total. Unfortunately this season it's actually been a high tide at the bottom barring Peterborough and Barnsley. Taking away points deductions and you've got Hull, Reading, Bristol and Birmingham all with 40+ points with 6 games left. We needed more really poor teams down there. If there had been then we would have survived for sure. I just think we've been really unlucky. With the squad we've had it's been a great effort and remarkable that we've taken it this far. It's still not quite over. We need a miracle but they do happen in this sport. DCFC1388, BramcoteRam84, Carnero and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 It’s only been Reading’s 6 point deduction that’s kept this interesting. We’ve managed to pick up 22 points on The Posh 20 on Barnsley but only 6 on Reading. We’ve managed to pick up 8 points on Hull, 5 on Bristol,4 on Brum and 3 on Cardiff. The away return is what’s done us. It’s not over yet and if you take away our points deduction then we would’ve looked like being comfortably safe. Quite a feat for a team of journeymen and kids. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: We were never ever staying up this season as soon as that 21 point deduction kicked in. The fact that we're now only talking that our chances have gone with 6 games to go is a testament to Rooney, the staff and the players for given absolutely everything. A 21 point deduction and 2 wins out of 20 away games really gives us no chance. If only we'd won a couple more away. Hopefully we get a 15 point deduction now and can start afresh next season. Don’t think a 15 point deduction can be assumed but if we get it I reckon it’ll be next season. The players’ commitment has been excellent, as you say But the idea we were down after the deduction is odd. Where would we be if Jags had stayed? Since embargo bit, we’ve had Cashin and Ebiowei race through as serious championship players, Festy has hit the headlines, and Thomson has shown what he’s capable of (though we’ve adopted a style that doesn’t suit him). Morrison has shown his effectiveness when further forward. Where would we be if Lawrence had not seen red? Where would we be if Bielik’s improvement on return had been steeper? Many say the squad is threadbare but posters name at least 16 players in their starting line ups. We’ve got players on the bench other clubs would love to sign. The away vs home form ? Can’t explain that in terms of points deductions. True, after the deductions mid table form was never going to be (quite) enough. But we’ve seen what this squad can do and many had expected us still to be in touch very close to the last game. March was terrible Edited April 5, 2022 by kevinhectoring Indy, Rammy03, Rev and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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