Day Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, SirBrian said: Highly selective choosing only one of the points, has the feel of a Bristol city fan, lol KC always wanted Wayne to stay on as manager, so when KC walked away in December was it, then when he made his second bid, he was quick to say Wayne was staying on as manager, you are quite right Wayne was never a factor in KC buying the club. You accuse me of selective quoting whilst putting words into my mouth. I had already agreed with most of what you had previously said, the new bit was at the end which I couldn't get my head around. I have also not said he was never a factor in Kirchner wanting to buy the club, what I said was that neither Kirchner, Ashley or any of the other interested parties, would ever been interested had it not been for Rooney, I can't believe that is true. So yes, Rooney could be a factor, what I'm saying is, not the only factor, Derby County is more than Wayne Rooney. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I think the council have shot their bolt too early on the Freedom thing. Rooney, I expect will grin and bear it as he wouldn’t be rude enough to refuse. But I’m quite sure he’ll be thinking what he’s done to deserve it over other upstanding and selfless citizens of this city. One could to point to the all time record of consecutive away defeats he presided over this season if anyone thought he was a great manager. He’s not a great manager yet but he could be. He’s shown he’s a people person possessing great empathy both essential in a leader. Rooney would be first to admit he’s a work in progress and he just wants to go about his business so I don’t think he’ll appreciate or think he deserves to be lorded like this just yet. I think we have a gem in Rooney but this freedom thing is bonkers. Magicman, Taribo and May Contain Nuts 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I think this whole thing has more to do with the cult of celebrity than any sensible assessment of whether Rooney has (yet) earnt the accolade. Get him in the council chamber, have our photos taken with him to show the grandkids, what's not to like? Inverurie Ram, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, May Contain Nuts and 5 others 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, David said: We have a statue of a legendary manager at the club, achieved far greater things than Rooney has, took him 30 years after leaving the club to be given the freedom of Derby. There's no bigger fan of Brian Clough at Derby than me. I had the privilege of seeing it all. He would have been given the Freedom of the City of Derby, which he fully deserved, much earlier had he not spent 18 years managing Forest. That bit hurt us all. But that statue includes Peter Taylor who you forget to mention. None of us who lived through their period in Derby have ever forgotten Taylor's contribution to our success; that's why there's a statue of him too. There's no statue of Taylor in Nottingham, despite his contribution to their success. That hurts the Taylor family. Please remember David that it's not Clough and Derby, but Clough and Taylor and Derby. Nottingham don't get that but we do. Unfortunately, Peter Taylor had passed away by the time Clough was given the Freedom of the City of Derby. That was simply fate, because Taylor was deserving of the same accolade but he never received it. Never forget his part in it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 I like it that you liked it David. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 12 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: And how about the effect that had on the Club's players and staff, fans and the rest of the City? #proud Who is Adam Peaty? I was travelling back from the Hungarian GP a few years back, and sat next to his mam on the flight. We got chatting, and I asked if she'd been over for the F1? No she said, she'd been watching her son in the swimming world championships, so I enquired if he was any good, and how he'd got on, which earned me a dig in the ribs from the present Mrs Devil. "He did ok", was her understated reply, as he'd smashed his own world record and had the gold medal hanging around his neck! Kathcairns, IslandExile, RoyMac5 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 8 hours ago, SirBrian said: Not being mystic meg, would any other manager have stuck with the club when the going got tough, doubt they would. Not a dig, but if it was Liam Rosenior in charge and he was also in his first managerial job (having got the job in phony circumstances) while being the highest paid manager in the Championship, then yes I think he and many others in that position would have stuck with the club. Taribo, May Contain Nuts and jimtastic56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 If Wayne signs a three year contract that will be amazing. Was surprised that he came to Derby , but sticking with us even in League One shows unbelievable commitment . Hopefully that will be an example for the players to stick with us too. I know nuffin, SirBrian, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrian Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 9 hours ago, angieram said: I think this whole thing has more to do with the cult of celebrity than any sensible assessment of whether Rooney has (yet) earnt the accolade. Get him in the council chamber, have our photos taken with him to show the grandkids, what's not to like? Cynical you, only joking, however the council must have been worried over this nightmare, for it as been reported that the club is worth up to a £100 million for the city's trade over a year, whether this is true or not, no football means many job losses and for Mr Pop that means they are not paying tax. Freedom of the City not intrested whether he his made one or not, if he his then the reconition is worthy for what he has done for the city. AlvoRam! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 8 hours ago, Rev said: I was travelling back from the Hungarian GP a few years back, and sat next to his mam on the flight. We got chatting, and I asked if she'd been over for the F1? No she said, she'd been watching her son in the swimming world championships, so I enquired if he was any good, and how he'd got on, which earned me a dig in the ribs from the present Mrs Devil. "He did ok", was her understated reply, as he'd smashed his own world record and had the gold medal hanging around his neck! That's mums for you whilst bursting with pride inside Kathcairns and archram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: Not a dig, but if it was Liam Rosenior in charge and he was also in his first managerial job (having got the job in phony circumstances) while being the highest paid manager in the Championship, then yes I think he and many others in that position would have stuck with the club. And none of those others would have been given freedom of the city DarkFruitsRam7 and 24Charlie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 ROONEY ROONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: ROONEY ROONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Gossip says Blackburn. LeedsCityRam, Steve How Hard?, DanS1992 and 10 others 6 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Gossip says Blackburn. Interesting if true. They were in a pretty decent position last year so I’d imagine are looking to build on that and it’s also not that far from home for Rooney. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Gossip says Blackburn. Cynically would Blackburn be offering the squillion quid Rooney is on at the moment? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Cynically would Blackburn be offering the squillion quid Rooney is on at the moment? Does anyone (reliably) know what Rooney is being paid as a Manager? RoyMac5, CBRammette, Kathcairns and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crewton said: Does anyone (reliably) know what Rooney is being paid as a Manager? As reliable as most of the purported ITK drivel shared on here. FWIW here's a link to an article claiming what Rooney is on https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/what-wayne-rooneys-net-worth-24634803 Daily Fail also quote the same amount of 90k per week or 4.5 million quid a year. Allegedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Im pretty sure Rooney's wages were rationalised down when he was moved onto his full time manager contract and the £90k figure is what was quoted when he came in as a player (and we got additional 32 red sponsorship). Just my guess, and I've no Idea what he's on now, probably more than he would be if his name was Dave Nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: As reliable as most of the purported ITK drivel shared on here. FWIW here's a link to an article claiming what Rooney is on https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/what-wayne-rooneys-net-worth-24634803 Daily Fail also quote the same amount of 90k per week or 4.5 million quid a year. Allegedly. See, the MLS Player Association website showed that he earned $3.5m pa (about £2.75m at the time, or £55,000 pw) as a Designated player, and it was widely reported that Derby were matching that salary, but only because a significant proportion was being funded by an increase in sponsorship money by 32Red. The £90k pw figure doesn't tally with that by a long way and it's also been assumed that his new contract as a manager simply maintained his player's salary, which is unheard of. That's why I question it. Of course, when Mel Morris agreed to pay players like Johnson, Lawrence and Keogh circa £30k pw, it's not hard to believe he might have agreed to pay Rooney £4.5m pa, but it would set a new record for his own personal financial recklessness as owner. May Contain Nuts, Comrade 86, atherstoneram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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