CBRammette Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said: I'm not surprised we tried to offload him - he's probably the most expendable of the bigger earners, and maybe most likely to command a high-ish fee. But I don't see why he'd want to go to the MLS. I always assumed he'd end up at a midtable German team or something. And will there still be further fees due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Charlotte FC as in owned by billionaire David Tepper? Like your optimistic thinking!!!! RAM1966 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Just now, CBRammette said: And will there still be further fees due? I don't know exactly what was agreed, but if we still owe any fixed payments then these will be due as originally agreed. Any conditional payments (£Xm after Y games type stuff) will obviously not be due if he doesn't meet those targets. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Sorry if I have missed it but any update on his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On 31/10/2021 at 18:25, Gee SCREAMER !! said: As a winger you should be getting 15-20 clear assists and scoring 8-10 goals per season. You should make the full back hesitant to go forward very often. If your not doing that, your not contributing what's required. If we had more options, he wouldn't be getting games. Don't know if he's not settled or just not great but time to move along when we can start trading again. Joz was never everyone’s cup of tea , but I just wonder if Waghorn had stayed onside for his “goal” v Florists , would his career at Rams have taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Nah. He spent as much time on the ground as he did on his feet. Bambi was more sure footed. RAM1966, Gritstone Ram and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: Joz was never everyone’s cup of tea , but I just wonder if Waghorn had stayed onside for his “goal” v Florists , would his career at Rams have taken off. It wouldn't have made any difference. He has not scored enough or really looked like scoring. It's a shame but he has flattered to deceive. Finch and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: Joz was never everyone’s cup of tea I just don't think he was the type of player that a lot of fans wanted him to be. Fans wanted a 'proper winger' who'd drop his shoulder, beat a man and whip a cross in. Jozwiak is more of a Simon Dawkins-type player, all close control and layoffs and moving the ball around quickly. He was quite effective when we got players around him and running off him. When he was stuck out wide and got isolated, he struggled. The interesting question is whether the club/manager knew what type of player he was before we signed him. Given that Cocu apparently played with strong, quick, physical wingers at PSV to stretch the field, signing a player like Jozwiak doesn't make a whole lot of sense if he wanted the same here. jimtastic56, Steve How Hard? and MickD 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) Just like all our attacking midfielders under Rooney, Tom Lawrence aside Edited March 4, 2022 by Coconut's Beard jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: Joz was never everyone’s cup of tea , but I just wonder if Waghorn had stayed onside for his “goal” v Florists , would his career at Rams have taken off. He didn't have much luck, that's for sure, nor protection from referees. Teams targeted him for a clattering every game virtually. You'd have to conclude that the EFL doesn't suit him. jimtastic56, MickD and GB SPORTS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: I just don't think he was the type of player that a lot of fans wanted him to be. Fans wanted a 'proper winger' who'd drop his shoulder, beat a man and whip a cross in. Jozwiak is more of a Simon Dawkins-type player, all close control and layoffs and moving the ball around quickly. He was quite effective when we got players around him and running off him. When he was stuck out wide and got isolated, he struggled. The interesting question is whether the club/manager knew what type of player he was before we signed him. Given that Cocu apparently played with strong, quick, physical wingers at PSV to stretch the field, signing a player like Jozwiak doesn't make a whole lot of sense if he wanted the same here. The evidence from his time in / for Poland and his early appearances for us suggested that he was a direct pacy winger though. Mainly when played on the left... which we hardlly ever did. He can be a Simon Dawkins like player, which is what we sort of turned him into but never actually supported, or he can be a direct winger, which we never used him as once Cocu left. The idea under Cocu was that we passed the ball around to create some space, even if it was too slow and then used a little bit of pace at the right time to get in behind. In his first season when we finished 10th there was the basis of a good team there, it just didn't have anyone with even a modicum of pace to change things up. He just ended stuck in the middle, never really put to any real use. If Chris Martin had stuck around or we'd been able to sign Dursun things could have turned out very differently. Edited March 4, 2022 by Coconut's Beard MickD, CocuBarmyArmy and Steve How Hard? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 On 11/02/2022 at 10:25, CBRammette said: Like your optimistic thinking!!!! Maybe we've 'Done a Forest' and sold him to our partner club for millions ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 So wanted him to work out for us, but afraid my abiding memory of him will be his final appearance - running towards the opposition goal, realising he didn't know what to do next, falling over and injuring himself.....such a disappointing signing... jimtastic56 and The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, Gaspode said: So wanted him to work out for us, but afraid my abiding memory of him will be his final appearance - running towards the opposition goal, realising he didn't know what to do next, falling over and injuring himself.....such a disappointing signing... To be fair, he had lumps kicked out of him that game by Bowyer's thugs. MickD, jimtastic56 and Finch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Never really looked at home or comfortable with us …good luck to him but no real loss I’m sorry to say jimtastic56, Finch and Elwood P Dowd 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, S8TY said: Never really looked at home or comfortable with us …good luck to him but no real loss I’m sorry to say £3 million quid ahem? Unless we were meant to be paying that back but never did. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 ok you may not rate Jozwiak but at the end of the day he is 1 of the 6 players that has a contract beyond this season which means its a player we are not going to have next season as no resolution looks likely. europia and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Crewton said: To be fair, he had lumps kicked out of him that game by Bowyer's thugs. Surprised he was played if he was going. Assumed Rooney was clueless and the player said nowt to him either. Might have paid 5 weeks wages for nothing. Good stuff in the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Our Admins are cracking at doing a job they have no qualifications to do..selling footballers for next to nothing.. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 13 hours ago, Yani P said: Our Admins are cracking at doing a job they have no qualifications to do..selling footballers for next to nothing.. Or, selling a player that's injured for another month, saving (1 of the higher) wages and getting sufficient funds to keep the club afloat for the rest of the season..... The general consensus was that we won't miss him as he wasn't up to much, so getting circa £1,000,000+ for him is arguably a good deal ? GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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