Abu Derby Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Nigel should be given another chance and this time, financially backed. He knows his stuff, is very good at it, can spot a payer with potential a mile off, won’t stand for shirkers and is a thoroughly decent man. He could 100% do a very good job. Deej, Wolfie20, Mostyn6 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) Bloody hell... WTF ? Edited April 25, 2021 by Angry Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, RamLad1884 said: Sorry it may not have been clear from my statement, Clough's recruitment for frees/nominal fees was excellent. Where he failed was with the bigger money... Sammon, Maguire, Fielding and Bailey come to mind. I fear he wouldn't know what to do if we gave him £5mill to spend on a player for instance. £1.2m, £400k, £300k and £500k. The latter three isn't exactly big money. Fielding and Bailey actually started their careers very well. The fact those are the worst players Clough paid a fee for shows exactly how well he did in the market. Abu Derby and Deej 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Suggested this before: Clough or Cocu DoF: responsible for transfers but nothing else. McClaren First Team Coach: responsible for team selection and tactics. LeedsCityRam and Deej 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Suggested this before: Clough or Cocu DoF: responsible for transfers but nothing else. McClaren First Team Coach: responsible for team selection and tactics. Also have a feeling Cocu would be a great Director of Football - he seems more a club builder than a first team manager & his record on both transfers & youth development were very good during his time here. My first choice for manager/coach would be George Burley (not seen that he's officially retired) - the only manager I was absolutely gutted to see leave. Loved the way his teams played football, loved the way he took a ragbag of kids & unknown European talent and turned them into a really good side. To follow him with Phil Brown seemed a deliberately insulting act. Edited April 25, 2021 by LeedsCityRam Deej, europia and IslandExile 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I loathed his time here first time, absolutely thought he was the wrong man doing the wrong job and cheered when he was "suspended" before that match Vs Cardiff....but in our current situation, I'd give Nigel Pearson a go and let him do it his way (without the drone surveillance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) Frank and Jody. Especially now there's no chance of them being lured away for the Chelsea job, so they might actually build something. Edited April 25, 2021 by Carl Sagan DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, seths-cap said: I used to like the idea of Clough scouting for players and Mac coaching them. Look what Steve did with the last squad Nigel built. You'd want his brother, Simon looking for the players. He's always been chief scout wherever Nigel has been. Nige gave him a remit of what he wanted. Simon (more often than not) found the players. It worked well... very well in comparison to recruitment since (where I've wondered if there's been any discussion at all between management and scouting with some of them!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WamRam Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 The last time Derby lost 5 games in a row was 2011. Someone remind me who the manager was then? Did well with what he had at Derby but like someone said, if he was that good he'd have gone a bit further in management by now. Mostyn6 and Jayram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Frank and Jody. Especially now there's no chance of them being lured away for the Chelsea job, so they might actually build something. Yeah but think of the bar bill if they got us promoted. ariotofmyown, ck-, Carl Sagan and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 11 hours ago, RamLad1884 said: Sorry it may not have been clear from my statement, Clough's recruitment for frees/nominal fees was excellent. Where he failed was with the bigger money... Sammon, Maguire, Fielding and Bailey come to mind. I fear he wouldn't know what to do if we gave him £5mill to spend on a player for instance. Bailey, Fielding and Maguire cost £1,000,000 between them. Bailey was only moved on because Hendrick and then Hughes broke into the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Got a lot of time for Nigel but I don't think I've ever seen him as a long term answer to our problems. In all the years he was here we never put together a proper run of form which showed progress. The odd purple patch of flash in the pan but a few games later it was back to the cautious, Jake Buxton in CDM for the last 10 mins Clough. Did the job he was brought in to do, steadied the ship in both finances and league we were in. Frank and Jodie I'm not having either tbh. Apart from that late surge to secure our Play Off place and the away semi-final at Leeds it was very up and down. Probably had the three best loanees in the league, would have been interesting to see what he did without them the year after (Or not). 10+ million on Malone, Waggy and Marriott... Its a no from me. In recent years, it'll probably have to be ol' snake hips Rowett. Wasn't a massive fan but got the job done and pretty convincingly. Probably the most organised side we've had in a fair few years, could do with some of that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Mr Tibbs said: Got a lot of time for Nigel but I don't think I've ever seen him as a long term answer to our problems. In all the years he was here we never put together a proper run of form which showed progress. The odd purple patch of flash in the pan but a few games later it was back to the cautious, Jake Buxton in CDM for the last 10 mins Clough. Did the job he was brought in to do, steadied the ship in both finances and league we were in. Frank and Jodie I'm not having either tbh. Apart from that late surge to secure our Play Off place and the away semi-final at Leeds it was very up and down. Probably had the three best loanees in the league, would have been interesting to see what he did without them the year after (Or not). 10+ million on Malone, Waggy and Marriott... Its a no from me. In recent years, it'll probably have to be ol' snake hips Rowett. Wasn't a massive fan but got the job done and pretty convincingly. Probably the most organised side we've had in a fair few years, could do with some of that now. I hated rowettball with a passion,I still do although now we have even worse football with nothing to show for it. Edited April 26, 2021 by kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Andrew3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethorn Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 My hope is we survive relegation Alonso comes in and reappoints FL and JM on a reasonably salary but with a great bonus scheme and a pot for players and wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Frank and Jody. Especially now there's no chance of them being lured away for the Chelsea job, so they might actually build something. Yes please build us from nothing Dethorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) When comparing Nigel Clough's signings you've got to remember just how long he was here and how many there were! From what I can find if you combine loans & full transfers there were 63 players signed under him: Adam Legzdins, Adam Smith, Alberto Bueno, Barry Bannan, Ben Davies, Ben Pringle, Brad Jones, Bryan Hughes, Chris Maguire, Chris Martin, Chris Porter, Conor Doyle, Conor Sammon, Craig Bryson, Craig Forsyth, Daniel Ayala, Dave Martin, David Martin, Dean Moxey, DJ Campbell, Frank Fielding, Fredrik Stoor, Gareth Roberts, Gilles Sunu, Jake Buxton, Jake Livermore, James Bailey, James O'Connor, James Vaughan, Jamie Ward, Jason Shackell, Javan Vidal, John Brayford, John Eustace, Johnny Russell, Kevin Kilbane, Kieron Freeman, Lee Croft, Lee Hendrie, Lee Johnson, Luke Moore, Michael Hoganson, Michael Jacobs, Michael Tonge, Nathan Tyson, Nicky Hunt, Paul Coutts, Paul Dickov, Richard Keogh, Russell Anderson, Ryan Noble, Saul Deeney, Shaun Barker, Shefki Kuqi, Tamás Priskin, Theo Robinson, Tom Carroll, Tom Naylor, Tomasz Cywka, Valentin Gjokaj... also Matt Duke, Seb Hines & Michael Boulding but none of those ever made an appearance for us. The players he inherited from previous managers and our academy take it to 97 players used in his time as manager. Andy Todd, Arnaud Mendy, Callum Ball, Dean Leacock, Emanuel Villa, Gary Teale, Giles Barnes, Greg Mills, James Severn, Jay McEveley, Jeff Hendrick, Jordan Stewart, Kris Commons, Lee Grant, Lewin Nyatanga, Luke Varney, Mark Dudley, Mark O'Brien, Martin Albrechtsen, Mason Bennett, Mile Sterjovski, Miles Addison, Mohammed Camara, Nacer Barazite, Nathan Ellington, Paul Connolly, Paul Green, Przemyslaw Kazmierczak, Rob Hulse, Robbie Savage, Ross Atkins, Roy Carroll, Ryan Connolly, Stephen Bywater, Stephen Pearson, Steve Davies, Will Hughes. I'm not really making any massive point except maybe the old adage of "if you throw enough poo at the wall..." but that would ignore the situation we were in and how we usually had to take whatever we could get. Edited April 26, 2021 by Coconut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Coconut said: Adam Legzdins ok Adam Smith poor Alberto Bueno good Barry Bannan meh Ben Davies ok Ben Pringle meh Brad Jones poor (understandable though) Bryan Hughes poor Chris Maguire poor Chris Martin very good Chris Porter meh Conor Doyle poor Conor Sammon poor Craig Bryson very good Craig Forsyth good Daniel Ayala meh Dave Martin (GK) poor David Martin (LM) poor Dean Moxey ok DJ Campbell ok Frank Fielding ok Fredrik Stoor ok Gareth Roberts ok Gilles Sunu poor Jake Buxton good Jake Livermore terrible James Bailey ok James O'Connor poor James Vaughan terrible Jamie Ward good Jason Shackell ok Javan Vidal poor John Brayford good John Eustace good Johnny Russell good Kevin Kilbane poor Kieron Freeman meh Lee Croft poor Lee Hendrie poor Lee Johnson meh Luke Moore poor Michael Hoganson poor Michael Jacobs meh Michael Tonge ok Nathan Tyson poor Nicky Hunt poor Paul Coutts ok Paul Dickov ok Richard Keogh very good Russell Anderson ok Ryan Noble terrible Saul Deeney terrible Shaun Barker good Shefki Kuqi good Tamás Priskin terrible Theo Robinson ok Tom Carroll meh Tom Naylor meh Tomasz Cywka ok Valentin Gjokaj meh How I rate his signings. May Contain Nuts and Chris_Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Manager: Lampard Assistant Manager: J. Morris First Team Coach: Mac Goalkeeper Coach: Steele Director of football: N. Clough Tea Lady: Rooney Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, DCFClks said: Manager: Lampard Assistant Manager: J. Morris First Team Coach: Mac Goalkeeper Coach: Steele Director of football: N. Clough Tea Lady: Rooney Millenniumram and DCFC Kicks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 15 hours ago, Abu Derby said: Nigel should be given another chance and this time, financially backed. He knows his stuff, is very good at it, can spot a payer with potential a mile off, won’t stand for shirkers and is a thoroughly decent man. He could 100% do a very good job. I'm grateful for everything he did, but if Clough was really that good why has he still not managed outside league 1 since? Wolfie and Spanish 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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