B4ev6is Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: B4 I think you’re ignoring the facts. we were found ‘guilty as charged’ of preparing accounts that don’t reflect the accounting profession’s requirements. the Tribunal did us a massive favour: they did not state that the accounts were contrary to the companies act. Instead, they found ‘only’ that we contravened the accounting standards the reason that does us a massive favour is this: if your accounts don’t reflect companies act requirements, that is a clear breach of the EFL’s rules. (I would guess it’s also a criminal offence but not sure) This matters because we know there are people at and around the EFL who think we deserve it in the neck for all this. The EFL can give it to us in the neck if it gets a judgement that says we breached the companies act, because they can then justifiably say: - you are in breach of our rules and the companies act by not sufficiently disclosing the change in amortisation policy - we think you did it deliberately, so that we would not notice/challenge the change in policy. That could in their minds justify a hefty sanction and there may be EFl precedent to support that @therealhantsramhas told us the scope of the appeal was debated in November. If the EFl were really gunning for us they would want a ruling on appeal that says that our accounts breached the companies act. The problem is they (probably) can’t get this. They can’t get it because the part of the judgement they want to appeal was one on which they succeeded (but in a limited way): if you get a ruling in your favour, you can’t appeal it. (That’s why I think the Tribunal did us a massive favour ) incidentally, you’d expect the Sheikh’s team to have been in the loop on all of this in Nov and beyond. It may have been a factor in the mess that the takeover has become, we will never know (but fans continue to say the Sheikh is a charlatan!). Ironically, this is all a bit personal between MM and the EFL, so we’d maybe get an easier ride if he sells. But this festering sore does not help him do that Were found not guilty on all charges and lost appeal 2nd time this be 3rd time unless I misunderstood it. The only reason gibson kicked off and I say it again if I was mel I ask efl look into boro accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Were found not guilty on all charges and lost appeal 2nd time this be 3rd time unless I misunderstood it. The only reason gibson kicked off and I say it again if I was mel I ask efl look into boro accounts. Look at @rynny’s post from Jan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Edited March 19, 2021 by Heisenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 And so we start again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Oh joy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Jesus do they never give up? Do the bar stewards hate us so much? Rammy03 and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Never a dull moment here at DCFC! *Apart from during an actual match... obvs! ? Slaapwekkend P, 1967Ram, ck- and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 We knew it was coming, why it's taking this long I'll never know. Either way be good to finally get it out the way. r_wilcockson, DCFC1388, Jimbo Ram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: My understanding from some reports was that the EFL appealed thinking they could submit new evidence. Given the rules say they can't, I can only imagine another humiliating defeat for them. Their time and money would have been better spent on changing the rules ?♂️ r_wilcockson, Reggie Greenwood, Comrade 86 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Their time and money would have been better spent on changing the rules ?♂️ Not even their money though is it, they use Championship clubs money to defend themselves in cases against the clubs. Carl Sagan, ariotofmyown, whiteroseram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarodyDCFC Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Who’d have thought that the combined forces of the EFL, Richard Keogh and Sheikh Khaled would unite in an attempt to send us into administration? RadioactiveWaste, Reggie Greenwood and Rammy03 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, JarodyDCFC said: Who’d have thought that the combined forces of the EFL, Richard Keogh and Sheikh Khaled would unite in an attempt to send us into administration? I'm not following here, how would any of this send us into administration? Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 This is why there hasn’t been a takeover as yet. All hinges on the outcome of this. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: This is why there hasn’t been a takeover as yet. All hinges on the outcome of this. You may well be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarodyDCFC Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, David said: I'm not following here, how would any of this send us into administration? Derby being ordered to pay 2 million pounds in compensation to Keogh, the takeover almost sending us into administration earlier this year, plus the money we’re losing from these legal battles with the EFL. We probably won’t though, just crazy how much money we’ve lost through external forces rather than player signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, David said: We knew it was coming, why it's taking this long I'll never know. Either way be good to finally get it out the way. Fine at worst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: My understanding from some reports was that the EFL appealed thinking they could submit new evidence. Given the rules say they can't, I can only imagine another humiliating defeat for them. Their time and money would have been better spent on changing the rules ?♂️ Or better still, working out how to ease the financial woes of the 70 odd clubs teetering on the edge of extinction due to Covid restrictions. As it is, they'll simply end up spending another £2 million fighting a case they can't win before passing the bill for their stupidity to the very clubs who are struggling to survive. Let's be honest here; we're talking about a body who seem far more keen on protecting the interests of Premier League teams than those they purport to serve. They have been seen to be wholly unfit purpose in every regard for a period of years now and the sooner they are put out to pasture, once and for all, the better for all concerned. hintonsboots, I know nothing, Ramarena and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Am I right in saying the EFL have already lost an appeal on this case and this is them having a final appeal on that decision? Or have I made that up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: Jesus do they never give up? Do the bar stewards hate us so much? I don’t think they’ve forgiven Mel for having the temerity to insinuate The EFL didn’t get as good a deal from Sky as they might have. My understanding and it’s probably wide of the mark is Sky we’re the driving force in negotiations whereas The EFL should have been. They should have opened negotiations with terrestrial channels and BT (even as a bluff) to indicate to Sky it wasn’t a given they’d renew with them. Deej, Rev, Comrade 86 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, Pearl Ram said: I don’t think they’ve forgiven Mel for having the temerity to insinuate The EFL didn’t get as good a deal from Sky as they might have. My understanding and it’s probably wide of the mark is Sky we’re the driving force in negotiations whereas The EFL should have been. They should have opened negotiations with terrestrial channels and BT (even as a bluff) to indicate to Sky it wasn’t a given they’d renew with them. All the commercial savvy of a wet wipe ?♂️ whiteroseram, Deej and Pearl Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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