Comrade 86 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Looking back over the thread it's hard to tell which crap you're alluding to...... Don't think it's too hard to work out what triggered @Eddie's post tbh 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 If anyone was triggered by my post then god help them. I was agreeing with and contributing further information to the notion that the full story isn't simply 3 promotions and 3 relegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) In a nutshell. The football was rubbish, the results were rubbish. Paul Warne failed last January and we lost out on a playoff place which we threw away. So therefore, Paul Warne was rubbish. This season started a bit rubbish, football was rubbish, results were rubbish and so Paul Warne was still rubbish. Last few weeks things have been better, we are winning games, the football is better and we could achieve something. Paul Warne is looking less rubbish. His task now is to have a better January than last year and not throw away promotion like he did last year. Easy. Edited January 1 by MackworthRamIsGod On the Ram Page 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: In a nutshell. The football was rubbish, the results were rubbish. Paul Warne failed last January and we lost out on a playoff place which we threw away. So therefore, Paul Warne was rubbish. This season started a bit rubbish, football was rubbish, results were rubbish and so Paul Warne was still rubbish. Last few weeks things have been better, we are winning games, the football is better and we could achieve something. Paul Warne is looking less rubbish. His task now is to have a better January than last year and not throw away promotion like he did last year. Easy. Throw away promotion? We were clinging into the play offs, not top by 20 points. Rammy03, MarsdenRam, Premier ram and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: In a nutshell. The football was rubbish, the results were rubbish. Paul Warne failed last January and we lost out on a playoff place which we threw away. So therefore, Paul Warne was rubbish. This season started a bit rubbish, football was rubbish, results were rubbish and so Paul Warne was still rubbish. Last few weeks things have been better, we are winning games, the football is better and we could achieve something. Paul Warne is looking less rubbish. His task now is to have a better January than last year and not throw away promotion like he did last year. Easy. Nice objective view of things there. I seem to recall some very entertaining wins last season, a nice unbeaten run, the miracle of actually starting to score goals and win away from home…..as well as the collapse towards the back end of the season. This one thing or the other way of seeing things just doesn’t fit for me, there was some good and some bad last season, which meant ultimately we didn’t make the playoffs. There’s been some good and some bad this season, with plenty of opportunity for it to go well and still the possibility that it doesn’t. We had some good results early in the season despite the mixed performances; Peterborough, Blackpool and Burton away spring to mind; and some not so good…. Cheltenham and Stevenage. It’s not “easy”, Warne has got some things right and some things wrong, presently the current run suggests patience may well prove to be a virtue as the squad has gelled and is performing well alongside some consistent results. The only thing that’s black and white in all of this are the club’s colours, it’s never and will never be a simple binary discussion for me despite how hard some people try to make it so. Edited January 1 by Caerphilly Ram angieram, Miggins, RodleyRam and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 1 hour ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: In a nutshell. The football was rubbish, the results were rubbish. Paul Warne failed last January and we lost out on a playoff place which we threw away. So therefore, Paul Warne was rubbish. This season started a bit rubbish, football was rubbish, results were rubbish and so Paul Warne was still rubbish. Last few weeks things have been better, we are winning games, the football is better and we could achieve something. Paul Warne is looking less rubbish. His task now is to have a better January than last year and not throw away promotion like he did last year. Easy. If you're going to judge PW by our performances and results (which doesn't sound too unreasonable) then given our football has been much better and our results have been excellent of late surely Paul Warne is currently looking good rather than just less rubbish? On the Ram Page, Van der MoodHoover, jono and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Still amazed after the club nearly disappearing by a pube hair, people think we should go up in 1-2 seasons after, and it's "rubbish" if we don't. The whole club is recovering from a near death situation.. jono, Caerphilly Ram, FlyBritishMidland and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 hours ago, May Contain Nuts said: Fair's fair, so you could say the same about his promotion record. The covid season was ended early and final positions decided on PPG, avoiding the effects of a late season slump - they had only won 1 of their last 5 fixtures that season so very well could have got lucky it was cancelled when it was and not a game or two later. Sure, that's important context, but those factors were outside of his control. Similarly, in the following season their run in was severely affected by Covid, and you could argue without the fixture pile up they would probably have picked up the extra 2 points required to relegate us and Wycombe instead. So you've kind-of reinforced my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 19 minutes ago, Crewton said: Sure, that's important context, but those factors were outside of his control. Similarly, in the following season their run in was severely affected by Covid, and you could argue without the fixture pile up they would probably have picked up the extra 2 points required to relegate us and Wycombe instead. So you've kind-of reinforced my point. Aye, lots of variables. The point really is that you can't pick and choose which promotions/relegations count and which don't, otherwise you're opening a whole can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crewton Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, May Contain Nuts said: Aye, lots of variables. The point really is that you can't pick and choose which promotions/relegations count and which don't, otherwise you're opening a whole can of worms. Maybe, but you can't ignore the fact that Rotherham never sacked him after any of those relegations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 On 30/12/2023 at 11:03, Simmo’s left foot said: Plenty of other players in our squad who could be comfortable in the championship, Wildsmith, Vickers, Bird, NML, Nelson, Ryanbe, Sibley, Thomson, Hourihane, Fozzie (If he decides not to retire) Ward, Elder, Wilson just to name a few. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Sibley is a waste of a shirt. Only thing today that disappointed me apart from the Ref and the sheer amount of space we have their Number 30. oh and bird and Hourihsnes anonymity in the first 45 Bird not releasing Ward on the break and the general ineptitude of the officials. None of them are Warne’s fault so I’m still pro Warne with 1 defeat in 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 On 30/12/2023 at 10:51, jimtastic56 said: If the club sells Cashin ( the only player that would be comfortable in the Championship). I would expect Warne to be furious. Id say we have at least 3 players who’d be comfortable in the championship and one good enough for the PL kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and Caerphilly Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 9 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: In a nutshell. The football was rubbish, the results were rubbish. Paul Warne failed last January and we lost out on a playoff place which we threw away. So therefore, Paul Warne was rubbish. This season started a bit rubbish, football was rubbish, results were rubbish and so Paul Warne was still rubbish. Last few weeks things have been better, we are winning games, the football is better and we could achieve something. Paul Warne is looking less rubbish. His task now is to have a better January than last year and not throw away promotion like he did last year. Easy. You must admit, there's an awful lot of 'rubbish' in this post 😉 Foreveram, Comrade 86, i-Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 7 hours ago, jcidaho said: Still amazed after the club nearly disappearing by a pube hair, people think we should go up in 1-2 seasons after, and it's "rubbish" if we don't. The whole club is recovering from a near death situation.. The squad we have now is capable of it, if used correctly. What happened 18 months ago doesn't magically change that. Ghost of Clough, kevinhectoring, May Contain Nuts and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcidaho Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 9 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: The squad we have now is capable of it, if used correctly. What happened 18 months ago doesn't magically change that. There's more to it than just having a bunch of good players. Cohesion takes time, players knowing each other and their roles, the team being in a psychologically good place. All of is this hard to achieve following admin and getting a new management team in. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, jcidaho said: There's more to it than just having a bunch of good players. Cohesion takes time, players knowing each other and their roles, the team being in a psychologically good place. All of is this hard to achieve following admin and getting a new management team in. League 1 clubs typically change about 12 first team players every summer. Every club goes through a similar period of cohesion. The clubs with better recruitment tend to need less time to get up to speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, jcidaho said: There's more to it than just having a bunch of good players. Cohesion takes time, players knowing each other and their roles, the team being in a psychologically good place. All of is this hard to achieve following admin and getting a new management team in. And yet all of that was achieved within the first 3 months of the start of last season. What amazes me is the constant need to keep doing ourselves down and keep beating ourselves up over the actions of one man, despite all the evidence on the pitch and with the hindsight of watching us play 70 games in this league pointing to promotion in that time frame being entirely plausibly or even expected, even if not demanded. Edited January 1 by May Contain Nuts Ghost of Clough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 We will need to back this disappointing result up with a few positive results to keep the momentum we built. worst thing that can happen now is we go on a bad run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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