Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, B4ev6is said: Well actlley mate or was Pearson sent him to fulham did not want to leave he came back and tried not go back he had no choice and then cocu was pleased with martin and once again he was shipped off to wednesday. And for me I think warn be able to help martin and also replace the goals macgoldick did replace him. He came back from Fulham when we gave him a 3 year deal on much improved wages. It might be Butterfield your thinking off regarding Wednesday. We offered Martin another deal when his contract ran out but he took Bristols offer instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Chris Martin's topics are like Herpes simplex viruses. Painful, reoccurring, not curable, and pretty much everyone is inflicted. By the way, I voted no. If we are looking for an impact sub, we should definitely go for Sharp. TomTom92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 14:08, PistoldPete said: What’s this thread doing here? It’s a Wardrobe malfunction. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Wignall12 and S8TY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 17/07/2023 at 08:42, DavesaRam said: 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Well been playing for QPR and scoring goals. Chris_Martin, Ram1988 and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Let it go! Let it go! Let it go! - Too slow and over paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 15:36, RoyMac5 said: And yet he was always in place to receive and hold up the ball. Knew when to press to close the man down and is good in the air and at winning free kicks. I expect that he will be after a championship contract. Yeah just call him god lol 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Not for Warne ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I can understand the frustrations of peoples opinions on re signing CM, however he is the best striker we have had at the club in the last 20 years, maybe even 30. He deserves a bit of respect. Kathcairns, inter politics, S8TY and 13 others 8 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, europia said: Not for Warne ball. Neither was McGoldrick 🤷♂️ the bit of focus on Martin is the reality that currently we haven’t got anyone better - in the third division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mice_elf Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, jimbobram said: he is the best striker we have had at the club in the last 20 years, maybe even 30 Chris Martin has done nothing above Tier 2 in the League - 5 Premier League appearances yielded no goals and no assists :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-martin/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/46154 To be fair, he did score 3 goals at International level for Scotland, but then so did ex-Ram Ikechi Anya, so perhaps not too much to brag about. If we go back just 5 years, we've had Darren Bent, David Nugent and Matej Vydra on the Books. They've all had decent careers at Premier League Level :- https://www.transfermarkt.com/darren-bent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/13239 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/david-nugent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/33963 https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500 Just to pick some salient data from those Transfermarkt Stats :- Chris Martin - 456 Championship appearances have yielded 114 Goals. Darren Bent - 277 Premier League appearances yielded 106 Goals. Do you really believe Chris Martin is/was a better Striker than Darren Bent? Stretch back 10 Years, and you bring Patrick Bamford into play :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-bamford/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/183334 OK he was only on Loan, but he did get us 8 Goals and 4 assists from 23 Games, and he wasn't playing as an out and out striker. Like Bent/Nuge/Vyds, Bamford has performed well in the Top Tier. His first Season with the Dirties in the Premier League yielded 17 Goals and 8 assists from 38 Appearances. There is no way Chris Martin would have/could have matched those Stats in the Top Tier. If we delve back further into your 20 to 30 Year Time Frame, players like Strupar/Wanchope/Ravanelli/Baiano have played for us. Again these are Strikers who have performed with distinction in the Top Tiers. Wanchope scored 44 International goals for Costa Rica in 77 Games. https://www.transfermarkt.com/branko-strupar/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/10444 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/paulo-wanchope/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/3230 https://www.transfermarkt.com/fabrizio-ravanelli/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/4226 https://www.transfermarkt.com/francesco-baiano/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/107802 I'm sure I've missed some more decent Strikers in your Timeframe but it's late and I'm off to bed - Gabbi, Kitson maybe? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, mice_elf said: Chris Martin has done nothing above Tier 2 in the League - 5 Premier League appearances yielded no goals and no assists :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-martin/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/46154 To be fair, he did score 3 goals at International level for Scotland, but then so did ex-Ram Ikechi Anya, so perhaps not too much to brag about. If we go back just 5 years, we've had Darren Bent, David Nugent and Matej Vydra on the Books. They've all had decent careers at Premier League Level :- https://www.transfermarkt.com/darren-bent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/13239 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/david-nugent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/33963 https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500 Just to pick some salient data from those Transfermarkt Stats :- Chris Martin - 456 Championship appearances have yielded 114 Goals. Darren Bent - 277 Premier League appearances yielded 106 Goals. Do you really believe Chris Martin is/was a better Striker than Darren Bent? Stretch back 10 Years, and you bring Patrick Bamford into play :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-bamford/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/183334 OK he was only on Loan, but he did get us 8 Goals and 4 assists from 23 Games, and he wasn't playing as an out and out striker. Like Bent/Nuge/Vyds, Bamford has performed well in the Top Tier. His first Season with the Dirties in the Premier League yielded 17 Goals and 8 assists from 38 Appearances. There is no way Chris Martin would have/could have matched those Stats in the Top Tier. If we delve back further into your 20 to 30 Year Time Frame, players like Strupar/Wanchope/Ravanelli/Baiano have played for us. Again these are Strikers who have performed with distinction in the Top Tiers. Wanchope scored 44 International goals for Costa Rica in 77 Games. https://www.transfermarkt.com/branko-strupar/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/10444 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/paulo-wanchope/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/3230 https://www.transfermarkt.com/fabrizio-ravanelli/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/4226 https://www.transfermarkt.com/francesco-baiano/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/107802 I'm sure I've missed some more decent Strikers in your Timeframe but it's late and I'm off to bed - Gabbi, Kitson maybe? Not to get involved in the debate, but Vydra did very little at Premier League level and @jimbobram was clearly referring to performances in a Derby shirt and not Bent's career before he came to us. Edited July 20, 2023 by DarkFruitsRam7 Dordogne-Ram, sage, RoyMac5 and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 hours ago, mice_elf said: Chris Martin has done nothing above Tier 2 in the League - 5 Premier League appearances yielded no goals and no assists :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-martin/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/46154 To be fair, he did score 3 goals at International level for Scotland, but then so did ex-Ram Ikechi Anya, so perhaps not too much to brag about. If we go back just 5 years, we've had Darren Bent, David Nugent and Matej Vydra on the Books. They've all had decent careers at Premier League Level :- https://www.transfermarkt.com/darren-bent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/13239 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/david-nugent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/33963 https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500 Just to pick some salient data from those Transfermarkt Stats :- Chris Martin - 456 Championship appearances have yielded 114 Goals. Darren Bent - 277 Premier League appearances yielded 106 Goals. Do you really believe Chris Martin is/was a better Striker than Darren Bent? Stretch back 10 Years, and you bring Patrick Bamford into play :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-bamford/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/183334 OK he was only on Loan, but he did get us 8 Goals and 4 assists from 23 Games, and he wasn't playing as an out and out striker. Like Bent/Nuge/Vyds, Bamford has performed well in the Top Tier. His first Season with the Dirties in the Premier League yielded 17 Goals and 8 assists from 38 Appearances. There is no way Chris Martin would have/could have matched those Stats in the Top Tier. If we delve back further into your 20 to 30 Year Time Frame, players like Strupar/Wanchope/Ravanelli/Baiano have played for us. Again these are Strikers who have performed with distinction in the Top Tiers. Wanchope scored 44 International goals for Costa Rica in 77 Games. https://www.transfermarkt.com/branko-strupar/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/10444 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/paulo-wanchope/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/3230 https://www.transfermarkt.com/fabrizio-ravanelli/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/4226 https://www.transfermarkt.com/francesco-baiano/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/107802 I'm sure I've missed some more decent Strikers in your Timeframe but it's late and I'm off to bed - Gabbi, Kitson maybe? Yeah I mean as has been said, think they were referring to the time at Derby. If not, well you've missed one off your list. Animal is a Ram, HectorsHouse and Sparkle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Not suggesting that we should bring him back, I just stumbled across this on twitter - some great memories, almost brings a tear to the eye... CapePete, Steve How Hard?, RoyMac5 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valakari Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I'd still have him back..better than all the rest so far mentioned! Ram1988, therealhantsram, Steve How Hard? and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, valakari said: I'd still have him back..better than all the rest so far mentioned! That’s the thing, if we had better then great and as always could he do a job for us in the third division - absolutely he could - would he play for a low wage and a short contract well that’s a different question - players like McGoldrick didn’t really play for the money he played for the enjoyment of it when with us which is why he’s moved on to fulfil his ambition of playing for his team Notts county. I would like to think that former successful players for us would like to come and help out - Kevin Hector immediately springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: That’s the thing, if we had better then great and as always could he do a job for us in the third division - absolutely he could - would he play for a low wage and a short contract well that’s a different question - players like McGoldrick didn’t really play for the money he played for the enjoyment of it when with us which is why he’s moved on to fulfil his ambition of playing for his team Notts county. I would like to think that former successful players for us would like to come and help out - Kevin Hector immediately springs to mind. He must be well into his seventies by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Taribo said: He must be well into his seventies by now? Still plays ( probably) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, David said: Yeah I mean as has been said, think they were referring to the time at Derby. If not, well you've missed one off your list. Rooney grew up dreaming he’d have a career as good as Chris Martin’s Edited July 20, 2023 by DarkFruitsRam7 Day and Steve How Hard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 14 hours ago, mice_elf said: Chris Martin has done nothing above Tier 2 in the League - 5 Premier League appearances yielded no goals and no assists :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/chris-martin/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/46154 To be fair, he did score 3 goals at International level for Scotland, but then so did ex-Ram Ikechi Anya, so perhaps not too much to brag about. If we go back just 5 years, we've had Darren Bent, David Nugent and Matej Vydra on the Books. They've all had decent careers at Premier League Level :- https://www.transfermarkt.com/darren-bent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/13239 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/david-nugent/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/33963 https://www.transfermarkt.com/matej-vydra/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/101500 Just to pick some salient data from those Transfermarkt Stats :- Chris Martin - 456 Championship appearances have yielded 114 Goals. Darren Bent - 277 Premier League appearances yielded 106 Goals. Do you really believe Chris Martin is/was a better Striker than Darren Bent? Stretch back 10 Years, and you bring Patrick Bamford into play :- https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/patrick-bamford/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/183334 OK he was only on Loan, but he did get us 8 Goals and 4 assists from 23 Games, and he wasn't playing as an out and out striker. Like Bent/Nuge/Vyds, Bamford has performed well in the Top Tier. His first Season with the Dirties in the Premier League yielded 17 Goals and 8 assists from 38 Appearances. There is no way Chris Martin would have/could have matched those Stats in the Top Tier. If we delve back further into your 20 to 30 Year Time Frame, players like Strupar/Wanchope/Ravanelli/Baiano have played for us. Again these are Strikers who have performed with distinction in the Top Tiers. Wanchope scored 44 International goals for Costa Rica in 77 Games. https://www.transfermarkt.com/branko-strupar/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/10444 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/paulo-wanchope/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/3230 https://www.transfermarkt.com/fabrizio-ravanelli/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/4226 https://www.transfermarkt.com/francesco-baiano/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/107802 I'm sure I've missed some more decent Strikers in your Timeframe but it's late and I'm off to bed - Gabbi, Kitson maybe? As if you’ve gone to all that time and effort to try and make a point, purely because you read what I said completely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 I actually think Chrissy would still do a decent job in League One. Can hold up the ball, brings others into play and knows where the back of the net is. Surely would be a welcome addition looking at our current options. Steve How Hard?, Adslegend, RoyMac5 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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