Our Queen

[maxjam]

Imagine being the one of the Americans ?

(watch from 50s onwards)

 

 

[i-Ram]

15 minutes ago, David said:

Not to derail the topic, was trying to figure out a way of sharing this article this morning.

Some nice tributes coming in from around the world, then you have this from the Mail.

Just feel like it’s almost making a mockery of her death by using it to create this type of article knowing it will go viral for the wrong reasons, yet all that matters these days are those numbers for ad revenue.

I say that as an owner of a site that is funded by ads, but it just frustrates me when it’s blatant crap they are putting out there knowing it will cause a stir.

It will cause a buzz, not a stir.

[Alph]

18 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

It will cause a buzz, not a stir.

The gif is to play it down but your proud of that one aren't you? 

[RoyMac5]

2 hours ago, David said:

Not to derail the topic, was trying to figure out a way of sharing this article this morning.

Some nice tributes coming in from around the world, then you have this from the Mail.

Just feel like it’s almost making a mockery of her death by using it to create this type of article knowing it will go viral for the wrong reasons, yet all that matters these days are those numbers for ad revenue.

I say that as an owner of a site that is funded by ads, but it just frustrates me when it’s blatant crap they are putting out there knowing it will cause a stir.

 

"EXCLUSIVE: Royal beekeeper has informed the Queen's bees that the Queen has died and King Charles is their new boss in bizarre tradition dating back centuries

Royal beekeeper John Chapple has notified the palace hive of the Queen's death

He told the bees that King Charles is their new boss and urged them to be good

The centuries-old tradition is rooted in superstition about honey production"

"The bees have also been told, in hushed tones, that their new master is now King Charles III

Telling the bees is a traditional custom of many European countries in which bees would be told of important events in their keeper's lives, such as births, marriages, or departures and returns in the household.

If the custom was omitted or forgotten and the bees were not ‘put into mourning’ then it was believed a penalty would be paid, such as the bees leaving their hive, stopping the production of honey or dying.

The custom is best known in England, but has also been recorded in Ireland, Wales, Germany, Netherlands, France, Switzerland, Bohemia and the United States."

Thanks for the link, it is a part of our heritage. I watched the proclamations this morning more fascinating procedures that root us all in our history.

[sheeponacid]

5 hours ago, David said:

Not to derail the topic, was trying to figure out a way of sharing this article this morning.

Some nice tributes coming in from around the world, then you have this from the Mail.

Just feel like it’s almost making a mockery of her death by using it to create this type of article knowing it will go viral for the wrong reasons, yet all that matters these days are those numbers for ad revenue.

I say that as an owner of a site that is funded by ads, but it just frustrates me when it’s blatant crap they are putting out there knowing it will cause a stir.

Telling the bees important news is an ancient custom….well know amongst bee keepers, so it’s not really that bizarre. A lot of beekeeping books and pagan books mention it.

[SSD]

A young child past Prince William a little Paddington bear teddy with a card inside. Nearly set me off ?

[Comrade 86]

I'm not a fan of the monarchy, nor am I staunchly averse to them. Indifferent, I suppose. That may change now though, as Elizabeth carried that family and all of the pressures that responsibility entailed from the moment she became our monarch, to the day of her death. Some may be surprised to know that amongst my social group, even the staunchest republicans deeply admired her for that, at very least. Politics be damned, her passing is a loss to the nation and the Commonwealth, as in her wake, we are left with a rabble unfit and unready for the job at hand. Her passing is a watershed, make no mistake.

For my part, I absolutely loved the Queen. I really did. I've never felt that such a notion was in conflict with my essentially socialist worldview and I'd have gone to watch a game today, no bother at all. I'd have belted out the Royal Anthem along with pretty much every other fan there, drowning out any attention-seeking morons in the process, maybe waived a Union Jack or two, or chanted Queenie, Queenie, start the bounce'. It would have been a unique occasion and a truly fitting way for the game of the working classes to show their respect in a joyous and positive fashion, devoid of the sackcloth and ashes routine and faux piety some fools favour. Alas, some feel they know us better than ourselves and thanks to these pompous, self-appointed moral compasses, the opportunity is now lost forever. Shame on them.

The Queen is dead. Long live the Queen. 

[RoyMac5]

 

[Archied]

9 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

I'm not a fan of the monarchy, nor am I staunchly averse to them. Indifferent, I suppose. That may change now though, as Elizabeth carried that family and all of the pressures that responsibility entailed from the moment she became our monarch, to the day of her death. Some may be surprised to know that amongst my social group, even the staunchest republicans deeply admired her for that, at very least. Politics be damned, her passing is a loss to the nation and the Commonwealth, as in her wake, we are left with a rabble unfit and unready for the job at hand. Her passing is a watershed, make no mistake.

For my part, I absolutely loved the Queen. I really did. I've never felt that such a notion was in conflict with my essentially socialist worldview and I'd have gone to watch a game today, no bother at all. I'd have belted out the Royal Anthem along with pretty much every other fan there, drowning out any attention-seeking morons in the process, maybe waived a Union Jack or two, or chanted Queenie, Queenie, start the bounce'. It would have been a unique occasion and a truly fitting way for the game of the working classes to show their respect in a joyous and positive fashion, devoid of the sackcloth and ashes routine and faux piety some fools favour. Alas, some feel they know us better than ourselves and thanks to these pompous, self-appointed moral compasses, the opportunity is now lost forever. Shame on them.

The Queen is dead. Long live the Queen. 

Agree with the above ,,

Charles not anywhere near his mother in terms of being someone who you cannot help but respect no matter your views on a monarchy and William though seemingly very decent moves us to an age of celebrity rather than what we had with the queen ,yes that’s not the fault of William it’s just the way the world has changed , for our older generation to meet or be recognised by the queen really meant something for them in they’re lives and I think those days have now gone in the main with meeting William on a par with meeting a pop star or footballer 

RIP the queen , the end of an era 

[uttoxram75]

Had a FaceTime chat with my son and daughter in law yesterday. They live in Singapore and as you'd expect from a Commonwealth country the death of QE2 is massive over there. My D-I-L is from Peru and she said the Queen is the most famous person in the world. Even growing up in Peru and living at one point in Venezuela, she told me our monarch was known and respected by everyone.

[TigerTedd]

19 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said:

Had a FaceTime chat with my son and daughter in law yesterday. They live in Singapore and as you'd expect from a Commonwealth country the death of QE2 is massive over there. My D-I-L is from Peru and she said the Queen is the most famous person in the world. Even growing up in Peru and living at one point in Venezuela, she told me our monarch was known and respected by everyone.

My wife is from Peru. I’m sure we knew we had that in common at one point. She said the same. It’s a massive deal the world over. Her family are massive Anglophiles as well, from her Dad being a big Beatles fan. They were very happy she ended up marrying an Englishman, and insisted she bought a 70th jubilee commemorative plate when she visited recently.

I was able it to comment though, and it relevant to this, I don’t get the love in with Paddington. To my family, and probably to your family, there’s great significance. But he’s held up as some sort of embodiment of British-ness, probably because he’s got a posh accent and drinks tea, but he’s an immigrant, from darkest Peru.

it would be great if I thought people were posting all these pictures with the queen and Paddington because they thought it was a great symbol of the queens work in the international community, and her love for all her subjects, even those not born in her kingdoms. But I suspect it’s really just ignorance about the origins of Paddington (obviously made fresh by her recent appearance with paddington).

Honestly, I think I feel a bit butthurt that he’s being culturally appropriated for the wrong reasons. If you want to show the queen with a British bear, use Winnie the Pooh, leave Paddington as a symbol for the immigrants and refugees, and the Peruvians in particular. 

[GboroRam]

23 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

My wife is from Peru. I’m sure we knew we had that in common at one point. She said the same. It’s a massive deal the world over. Her family are massive Anglophiles as well, from her Dad being a big Beatles fan. They were very happy she ended up marrying an Englishman, and insisted she bought a 70th jubilee commemorative plate when she visited recently.

I was able it to comment though, and it relevant to this, I don’t get the love in with Paddington. To my family, and probably to your family, there’s great significance. But he’s held up as some sort of embodiment of British-ness, probably because he’s got a posh accent and drinks tea, but he’s an immigrant, from darkest Peru.

it would be great if I thought people were posting all these pictures with the queen and Paddington because they thought it was a great symbol of the queens work in the international community, and her love for all her subjects, even those not born in her kingdoms. But I suspect it’s really just ignorance about the origins of Paddington (obviously made fresh by her recent appearance with paddington).

Honestly, I think I feel a bit butthurt that he’s being culturally appropriated for the wrong reasons. If you want to show the queen with a British bear, use Winnie the Pooh, leave Paddington as a symbol for the immigrants and refugees, and the Peruvians in particular. 

I think of Paddington as English because the author is English, and he never got the American Disney treatment like Pooh did. Just my view though, I fully get what you mean. 

[Crewton]

I've an Italian mate who's married to a Peruvian woman and she's never mentioned Paddington to me (or me to her tbf), so that's a revelation. Family moved to Italy at the time of the worst of the Shining Path violence.

[ariotofmyown]

1 hour ago, TigerTedd said:

My wife is from Peru. I’m sure we knew we had that in common at one point.

Is @uttoxram75 is your dad?

[Alph]

19 hours ago, SSD said:

A young child past Prince William a little Paddington bear teddy with a card inside. Nearly set me off ?

Bloody TV keeps giving me a lump in my throat every time I see her now. 

Weird how national pride can be stirred. Day to day I don't feel proud to be British. In some ways it's quite an ignorant, petty and spoiled place. 

Feel national pride at certain events and always back the Brit in sports etc. But this has taken it to another level. 

Just the history and heritage that the Queen carried with her... As well as just being an old gran. 

Grans are the best. Lost mine recently and there's something about the calm authority of an old gran that commands respect! 

[Ram-Alf]

1 hour ago, TigerTedd said:

My wife is from Peru. I’m sure we knew we had that in common at one point. She said the same. It’s a massive deal the world over. Her family are massive Anglophiles as well, from her Dad being a big Beatles fan. They were very happy she ended up marrying an Englishman, and insisted she bought a 70th jubilee commemorative plate when she visited recently.

 

Hey Tiger, I've looked and looked on a map of Peru...I can't bloody fined Anglophile...is it North or South of the Country?

[TigerTedd]

2 hours ago, Crewton said:

I've an Italian mate who's married to a Peruvian woman and she's never mentioned Paddington to me (or me to her tbf), so that's a revelation. Family moved to Italy at the time of the worst of the Shining Path violence.

That’s because, to be fair, @GboroRam is right. Paddington is a very British phenomenon. I doubt Micheal bond ever went to Peru, he probably just stuck a pin in a map. My wife didn’t know about Paddington til she got here, but now it’s like he’s her spirit animal. She cried all the way through the film at the cinema, cos it all resonated so much with her. We went to the Paddington shop at the station, where we found a cushion with a map and a literal dotted line from Peru to England. I don’t even understand why they’d bother making that, surely it’s only relevant for the handful of Peruvians in Britain. But for my wife it couldn’t have been more perfect. Had to get it. 

point is, yes Paddington is a British phenomenon, but I genuinely think people forget he’s an illegal immigrant that was smuggled here as a stowaway on a boat, and had to live in a friendly strangers attic, and has therefore been adopted by a lot of immigrants as their mascot.

to bring it back to the subject (sort of), I just find it very ironic that a big proportion of the people liking the image of Paddington and the queen on Facebook, are the same people that would say we should turn refugees away at the ports. 

[RoyMac5]

[angieram]

2 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

 @GboroRam 

to bring it back to the subject (sort of), I just find it very ironic that a big proportion of the people liking the image of Paddington and the queen on Facebook, are the same people that would say we should turn refugees away at the ports. 

And I'd like to think that another big proportion of the people liking it is because they know the story and recognise and are proud of the fact that Britain has in our recent history been a welcoming destination to many people from around the world that has turned us into the vibrant and diverse population we now are. 

That doesn't right the wrongs of  earlier (and most lately) behaviours but it is an ideal many of us still believe in.

[G STAR RAM]

3 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

to bring it back to the subject (sort of), I just find it very ironic that a big proportion of the people liking the image of Paddington and the queen on Facebook, are the same people that would say we should turn refugees away at the ports. 

Roughly what proportion is it out of interest?