ThePrisoner Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, B4ev6is said: Who says we wont get 20m for him look a good performance against messi will help this get to that amount and catch the eye. The only way we'll get 20m is if Bielik is the only player on the pitch for Poland and beats the Argentinian squad 3-0. Even then it's pushing it. Ziga Zaga10 and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: The only way we'll get 20m is if Bielik is the only player on the pitch for Poland and beats the Argentinian squad 3-0. Even then it's pushing it. Here we go again, FIFA relaxing the 6 man rule ? 48 hours, David Graham Brown, ThePrisoner and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Who says we wont get 20m for him look a good performance against messi will help this get to that amount and catch the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram@Lincoln Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Who says we wont get 20m for him look a good performance against messi will help this get to that amount and catch the eye. Since his first loan to Birmingham in 2016/17 season, he's had 256 possible club games, he's played in 110 of them, he joined them in the January 2017. He even went to Walsall on loan the following season and never played due to injury. Quote Bielik, who missed the first half of the season after undergoing surgery on a shoulder injury, has been struggling to shake-off a hamstring problem and has now picked up a knee complaint. Despite the latest setback, Saddlers boss Jon Whitney remains hopeful; “Unfortunately he has tweaked his knee during late-stage rehab which has delayed the start of his loan spell with us." Bielik explained, "I would go to the Championship but, because of the injury, the clubs did not want to risk me." https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/walsall-fc/2018/02/23/walsall-suffer-krystian-bielik-blow/ Quote The Arsenal loanee, who signed for the Saddlers in January, only joined up the squad last week after being blighted by injury over the past nine months. Bielik began the 2017/18 campaign with a shoulder problem before then injuring his knee while training with the Gunners. He joined the Saddlers on loan having almost regained full fitness, only for a hamstring strain to then delay his recovery. https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/walsall-fc/2018/03/27/krystian-bielik-up-for-the-battle-with-walsall/ If we compare his history versus Louis Sibley, who's been a bit part player in the most - he made his goal scoring debut just before the covid lockdown in March 2020 and has since made 103 appearances for us. Sibley has 3 years on Bielik in senior football and is only 7 games behind him in appearances. Bielik has a long history of being injured - this is a major problem for him long term and for us short term. It's a recurring knee and hamstring problem. It's all about the capital risk to the buying club, Bielik on a free transfer and small wages is a small risk, whereas paying £20m and putting him on large wages is a massive risk. Watch this video of Gary Lewin (one of the most respected and experienced physios in world football) explaining player medicals and transfer risks to Ben Foster on his podcast. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2945435152424784 You need to get out of whatever fairytale land you live in and be realistic. He's a crock, always has been and always will be. We were burnt massively as part of Mel's trainset and are trying to anything we can from the wreckage. Beggars can't be choosers, we'll get what we're given and it won't be £20m. Ziga Zaga10, DiggerB, Comrade 86 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberram Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 20p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ram@Lincoln said: Watch this video of Gary Lewin (one of the most respected and experienced physios in world football) explaining player medicals and transfer risks to Ben Foster on his podcast. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2945435152424784 Good video Lincoln, You learn something every day. We'll be giving Bielik away ? Ram@Lincoln 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 If he doesn't go for undisclosed, I'll be amazed. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, GboroRam said: If he doesn't go for undisclosed, I'll be amazed. Not even a Barker type fee? Dean (hick) Saunders and GboroRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Ram@Lincoln said: Since his first loan to Birmingham in 2016/17 season, he's had 256 possible club games, he's played in 110 of them, he joined them in the January 2017. He even went to Walsall on loan the following season and never played due to injury. If we compare his history versus Louis Sibley, who's been a bit part player in the most - he made his goal scoring debut just before the covid lockdown in March 2020 and has since made 103 appearances for us. Sibley has 3 years on Bielik in senior football and is only 7 games behind him in appearances. Bielik has a long history of being injured - this is a major problem for him long term and for us short term. It's a recurring knee and hamstring problem. It's all about the capital risk to the buying club, Bielik on a free transfer and small wages is a small risk, whereas paying £20m and putting him on large wages is a massive risk. Watch this video of Gary Lewin (one of the most respected and experienced physios in world football) explaining player medicals and transfer risks to Ben Foster on his podcast. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2945435152424784 You need to get out of whatever fairytale land you live in and be realistic. He's a crock, always has been and always will be. We were burnt massively as part of Mel's trainset and are trying to anything we can from the wreckage. Beggars can't be choosers, we'll get what we're given and it won't be £20m. You need to give B4 some leeway , as he says himself he has a few difficulties but optimism , enthusiasm and love of DCFC are not among them. Kinder, Zag zig, 48 hours and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram@Lincoln Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: You need to give B4 some leeway , as he says himself he has a few difficulties but optimism , enthusiasm and love of DCFC are not among them. I'm not knocking B4's optimism, enthusiasm and love for the club overall. There just needs to be realism in there too. My young lad believes that Derby will sign Ronaldo, therefore turning down £174m a year from the Middle East. Ronaldo won't sign for Derby, it's not realistic, my lad's now suggesting Grimsby players for us. That's realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Beilik has just been subbed on the hour mark. If Argentina get another goal - Poland will be going home early . At least Krystian gets back without injury in that case. 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Jinxed it for them. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Late goal for Saudi and Poland now face France . And possibly England after that.Bielik stays for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: Late goal for Saudi and Poland now face France . And possibly England after that.Bielik stays for now. More cash for us. How much do we get per day that he's out there, anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandiacreRam Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 You get $10k per day a player is involved ( in squad) plus 14 days pre tournament..so if Poland knocked out on Sunday that will equate to $280k 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: More cash for us. How much do we get per day that he's out there, anyone know? $10,000 I think RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, SandiacreRam said: You get $10k per day a player is involved ( in squad) plus 14 days pre tournament..so if Poland knocked out on Sunday that will equate to $280k Hmmm interesting. And do you know what the deal would most likely be between Derby and Brum round all of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Hmmm interesting. And do you know what the deal would most likely be between Derby and Brum round all of that I think all go to derby as he is our player mate not there as official stand point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I assume if he's loaned to Brum they get it it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, oomarkwright said: I assume if he's loaned to Brum they get it it all. I doubt it,he's still our player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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