PistoldPete Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 50 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Makes a lot more sense that he’s for the Under-21s. He’s an attacking midfielder and we don’t really need any more of them in the first team - we’ve already got Knight and Sibley (provided they both stay, of course). For those saying that makes the signing pointless - note that he’s out of contract at the end of the season. This loan will effectively act as a “trial” to assess his potential, before signing him permanently on a free next summer. He won’t take up any of our 5 “first team squad” loans (believe we’re allowed another 3 on top who aren’t involved on match days), so I don’t see the issue. Our academy has been decimated during administration (Mels legacy), leaving our U21 squad extremely thin (only 16 players currently), and totally devoid of quality, as evidenced by results so far this year. We’ve gone from having one of the best academies in the country to one of the worst. We’re crying out for reinforcements, and good quality ones at that, as we look to rebuild. We have to look externally - as we already have with Rooney and Nunn - so this seems a good move to me, I had thought it used to be 6 loans allowed with only 5 in the match day squad.. maybe that has changed as someone did mention that the limit was now 8 overall. If Haigh doesn't make the first team squad that still leaves two more loans allowed for the first team and another two for the rest. Still some business to do today or in January. Millenniumram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: I had thought it used to be 6 loans allowed with only 5 in the match day squad.. maybe that has changed as someone did mention that the limit was now 8 overall. If Haigh doesn't make the first team squad that still leaves two more loans allowed for the first team and another two for the rest. Still some business to do today or in January. The rules on loans change so often it’s hard to keep up tbf - either way up, I’m pretty sure loaning Haigh into the U21s won’t cause any issues with our first team recruitment. We’ve still got 2 first team squad loan slots, which we need to fill with a RB and ST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 New thread needed for Kavanagh I guess i-Ram and 48 hours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, LazloW said: New thread needed for Kavanagh I guess Hmm, centre half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Why would Chelsea send a player from their u21’s to ours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Welcome to Derby Joe! Only a half season loan is odd though, maybe look to sign him permanently in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rample said: Hmm, centre half. Think Rooney will be getting a lot closer to the first team after his performance in the cup cover for that maybe? bimmerman, Rample and TomG 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boycie said: Why would Chelsea send a player from their u21’s to ours? I'll update the title, don't worry, you lazy git jono, uttoxram75 and Comrade 86 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, YouRams said: Think Rooney will be getting a lot closer to the first team after his performance in the cup cover for that maybe? Not sure once Davies & Chester are back which seems likely in the new couple of weeks, is maybe an option for CDM too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Boycie said: Why would Chelsea send a player from their u21’s to ours? They sign dozens of u21's and can't play them all? I'd ban loans. Indyram, Boycie and 48 hours 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 I'm struggling with this one a bit as to the point. Unless they can play for the first team at some point. Surely that would need a different kind of ratification though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Might both be with a view to permanents in January? Who knows. Doesn’t effect anything and I’m sure the club know what they’re doing. Hardly like they’re going to be frittering money away is it? Dean (hick) Saunders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deano180 Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Our 21s have been depleted due to our situation since administration, must be looking for numbers and these our the new numbers, chance to shine for them while helping us build back to where we need to be. nogbad van 50, bimmerman and i-Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 On 31/08/2022 at 23:39, Ghost of Clough said: Knight will be RB for the season. Mendez-Laing, Barkhuizen, McGoldrick, Sibley, Dobbin and this guy to rotate as the three behind Collins and A.N.Other Thank god Knight is still with us. The videos show Haigh playing high and finishing well. The issue i reckon is not whether we have enough attacking players but whether we can get them playing together effectively. And how many minutes McGoldrick can play, he should be massive this season jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 6 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Thank god Knight is still with us. The videos show Haigh playing high and finishing well. The issue i reckon is not whether we have enough attacking players but whether we can get them playing together effectively. And how many minutes McGoldrick can play, he should be massive this season I have a feeling there isn’t much money about these days. If we are title contenders come January it might be a different story, but yeah .. huge relief we are all in one piece. 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Would guess this is a “try before you buy” type thing.. ? Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I would guess this is to get our u21 team something like competitive. Our younger players have a better chance of improving with the chance of playing better football/winning. bimmerman, Reggie Greenwood, Carl Sagan and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 And three of our more experienced Under 21 players, Max Bardell, Connor Dixon and Courtney Clarke are all out injured. If they are long-term injuries, we need cover. They could all be fit again by January. I think these signings demonstrate that we want to be competitive at under 21 level, as well as senior level. Good luck to them. Carl Sagan, IslandExile, 48 hours and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 We should always be looking to strengthen at all levels within the Club. The current first team squad certainly looks as though at the very least we should be competitive but both the U18 and U21 teams are struggling to compete with much better funded opposition and any moves to raise the quality of these squads (even for half a season) should be encouraged. Getting beaten week in, week out won't do their confidence any good and may have a detrimental effect on individual players who have the potential to go on to good careers. The likes of Cashin, Thompson, Bird, Knight and Sibley all played in teams which were competitive, allowing them to flourish and blossom into first team regulars - can we be sure that progression would have happened if they'd been losing almost every week? 48 hours, IslandExile, Jackal and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 6 hours ago, i-Ram said: I would guess this is to get our u21 team something like competitive. Our younger players have a better chance of improving with the chance of playing better football/winning. I agree with this It can't always help your development being 16 and getting battered by 18 year olds every week and the same at 18 in the U21s Yes some will cope but some positions are more physical that others. Just having and extra two experienced players at U21 allows us to play players in matches when they can best develop be that U21 U18 U16 or whatever. Would i prefer that we're bringing in permanent replacements for the huge outflow, yes obviously, but we'll take what we can get i-Ram, RoyMac5, Jackal and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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