rammieib Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Duracell said: No team has an average of 20 shots and an average of 0 goals over a season. Not in the history of football. I'd challenge any team to find one. It is impossible for this to continue. One of two things will happen; 1.) the chances will dry up completely or 2.) we start putting them away. At present, short of putting on his boots and finding the net himself, I'm not sure what Liam Rosenior can do other than convince his players the goals will come. Some saying it's a psychological issue but personally I'm skeptical that Collins is missing the goal due to some unresolved childhood trauma. If the first scenario does happen, it's a coaching issue and then it would be time to look elsewhere. There's lots of reasons to be optimistic that number 2 will happen. Those saying "it's the same story as last season" is only true in the fact we're not scoring goals. Last season, we only really scored and looked competitive against footballing sides with a high-press, where we'd create very high quality chances and would see clinical finishing. This season, we're also able to create chances against sides with a low block, but we can't hit a barn door with a banjo. Let's not forget, we're out of administration, but we're still a club laden with debt. Keeping CKR or signing another striker is one obvious solution to what's happening. You cannot blame Rosenior for that. We’re not laden with debt. Minor point to correct an excellent post. We are ladled with restrictions which is different. David Graham Brown, Duracell, derbydaz22 and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 We're not scoring away, as we didn't last season, but that's where the similarity ends, I wouldn't mind betting that we've already had more attempts at goal in 3 games this season, than we had in 23 away games last season. Tamworthram, Grumpy Git, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 11 others 5 2 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, alram said: we havent scored goals for a long time now it isnt just the way LR is setting us up LR has been setting us up for a long time now. Both last season and this. And then part of the coaching setup the season before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: LR has been setting us up for a long time now. Both last season and this. And then part of the coaching setup the season before. Cocu brought his AM and coach with him, but Rosenior was really in charge, eh? Premier ram and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I thinks he's a smashing bloke,eloquent a d intelligent with a huge knowledge of the technical side of the game. I personally don't believe he's quite ready to be first team coach,he's still lacking in experience in some aspects of the game,principally in forming an effective attack who are confident and relaxed enough to score goals. The solution might be to bring in an experienced head who can tweak the system with him (in a similar manner to when we supplemented Darren wassell,which proved to be a positive step) and unlock our attacking potential. You bring someone in above him and I'd doubt he'd stay ( and 6ou couldn't blame him) - so much for long term planning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Can’t really blame LR for keepers saving shots and defenders blocking shots. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 hours ago, YouRams said: it's early days but Collins has had a few he should've scored by now, the floodgates will hopefully open once he gets one but how many games in can we give it? I think you'll find it's the best part of 46 cos there isn't anyone else, nor is there likely to be. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said: You do make me smile….fair play ? Smile? He has me in hysterics with his nonsense - keep it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: I think you'll find it's the best part of 46 cos there isn't anyone else, nor is there likely to be. I can see us signing another option up top, I'll be surprised if we don't. Who though and who's available not got a clue! Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Magicman said: We don't score, don't have a plan B and look short of stamina. I expect LR to go if we don't sort these basics out after 10 games. He wouldn't make it to the door with his lack of fitness..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: LR has been setting us up for a long time now. Both last season and this. And then part of the coaching setup the season before. Give it a rest mate. The set up was fine as the 20+++ shots on goal indicate. How many times did we create as many chances in a game last season, or the season before? Against Shrewsbury we did look toothless, whereas today we created enough chances to have wrapped up the game inside 30 minutes. There's a clear and material difference and pretending otherwise does you few favours. Carnero, ariotofmyown, derbydaz22 and 12 others 3 7 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: You bring someone in above him and I'd doubt he'd stay ( and 6ou couldn't blame him) - so much for long term planning! Why has it got to be someone above him? (Mind you he is an interim coach,he's not been appointed yet don't forget). I'm thinking of a wise old head to assist him not take over from him,someone with experience who can nudge him in the right direction with our goalscoring issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Why has it got to be someone above him? (Mind you he is an interim coach,he's not been appointed yet don't forget). I'm thinking of a wise old head to assist him not take over from him,someone with experience who can nudge him in the right direction with our goalscoring issue. Think this is part of the problem. A couple of shrewd appointments to the back room team could ignite the players and give us fans something to sink our teeth in to. Alas we’ve got mastermind Jake Buxton kicking around. However, Clowes isn’t going to green light an appointment until he’s certain LR is the right man. So we’re doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different outcome. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Give it a rest mate. The set up was fine as the 20+++ shots on goal indicate. How many times did we create as many chances in a game last season, or the season before? Against Shrewsbury we did look toothless, whereas today we created enough chances to have wrapped up the game inside 30 minutes. There's a clear and material difference and pretending otherwise does you few favours. My response was to someone posting as if Rosenior has just arrived at the club, when the general talk is he was in charge of the training and setup last year as well as this. A time when keeping the ball was also the priority over scoring goals. So there's a worrying, long-term pattern. I'm glad if you think it looked better today. Time will tell, and let's hope it all works out, but surely you must have some concerns when only Morecambe and Shrewsbury have scored fewer goals than us in Division Three? europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: My response was to someone posting as if Rosenior has just arrived at the club, when the general talk is he was in charge of the training and setup last year as well as this. Was he also in charge of player recruitment? Did he get final say on team selection? How do last season's performances materially affect this season's anyway? After the Shrewsbury game it could be argued there were similarities but I'm guessing you don't watch too many games as away from home, as last season away from home, we seldom ever looked like scoring. I'm amazed you are unable to discern a difference. 40 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: ...surely you must have some concerns when only Morecambe and Shrewsbury have scored fewer goals than us in Division Three? Not really mate as I tend not to use selective data to make an evaluation. For example, have Morecombe and Shrewsbury been dominating games and not scoring too, as the parallel is rather fatuous if not? And for the umpteenth time, as has been pointed out ad nauseum, we've a brand new team, a gaffer getting to grips with a new role after a hellish couple of years and a squad lacking familiarity and who won't be cherry ripe for another month. Likewise, have Morecombe and Shrewsbury got undercooked, new teams too? Ah, apples and pears it is then ? Edited August 20, 2022 by 86 Hair Islands Crewton, ariotofmyown, David Graham Brown and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Nothing to worry about. Panic when we’re not creating owt. this stage of the season is about performances not results and if we keep starting like we are doing the results will follow. Relax and enjoy being frustrated at the club not finishing off chances rather than the impending doom of last season. Carnero, Crewton, kevinhectoring and 11 others 9 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I think we will be fine..personally I think we are near certs for promotion..we are dominating teams and creating chances..it will click..I reckon October onwards we will be near impossible to beat..just can't see us not being right at the top end . Crewton and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 For crying out loud give laim time coaching and manager is total different game he will get it right in the end just keep behing him and the lads. Premier ram, Dean (hick) Saunders, Carnero and 4 others 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 hours ago, rammieib said: We’re not laden with debt. Minor point to correct an excellent post. We are ladled with restrictions which is different. We owe a sizeable debt to a certain Mr Clowes Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: We owe a sizeable debt to a certain Mr Clowes I agree with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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