Derbyram1983 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Simmo’s left foot said: Not true, we may have either paid off outstanding debt, but that wont include future liabilities such as staged transfer fees, or fees based on appearances etc. So there might still be payments due in the future. Oh ok. Makes sense ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 There’s potential with him to be a good player he needs a good run rather than getting injured every 4th match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 No surprise he wants out. He was an absolute beast even in the Championship, League One is definitely beneath his abilities. Galatasary would be a good move for him, in terms of his international aspirations. Personally though, I’d be telling them they can have him on loan, but he’s not for sale this summer. We probably need to get his wages off the books, as they’re not really affordable at League One. But we’ll never get a decent fee for him this summer with his recent injury problems. It’d be a waste to sell him now - may as well keep him whilst he recovers form / fitness and then we can reassess next summer. If we get promoted he may well be happy to return here, otherwise we can see him hopefully for a bigger fee. Carnero and Andrew3000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: No surprise he wants out. He was an absolute beast even in the Championship, League One is definitely beneath his abilities. Galatasary would be a good move for him, in terms of his international aspirations. Personally though, I’d be telling them they can have him on loan, but he’s not for sale this summer. We probably need to get his wages off the books, as they’re not really affordable at League One. But we’ll never get a decent fee for him this summer with his recent injury problems. It’d be a waste to sell him now - may as well keep him whilst he recovers form / fitness and then we can reassess next summer. If we get promoted he may well be happy to return here, otherwise we can see him hopefully for a bigger fee. Has he said he wants to leave, must have missed it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Has he said he wants to leave, must have missed it ? That’s the latest rumour from the Turkish journalists. Might not be true, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Millenniumram said: No surprise he wants out. He was an absolute beast even in the Championship, League One is definitely beneath his abilities. Galatasary would be a good move for him, in terms of his international aspirations. Personally though, I’d be telling them they can have him on loan, but he’s not for sale this summer. We probably need to get his wages off the books, as they’re not really affordable at League One. But we’ll never get a decent fee for him this summer with his recent injury problems. It’d be a waste to sell him now - may as well keep him whilst he recovers form / fitness and then we can reassess next summer. If we get promoted he may well be happy to return here, otherwise we can see him hopefully for a bigger fee. Yep. Plus he MAY have a good world cup which could increase interest in him. No reason to sell at this stage, we need an impressive injury-free season from him to receive any worthwhile transfer fee. Loan makes complete sense for all parties. Millenniumram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Carnero said: Yep. Plus he MAY have a good world cup which could increase interest in him. No reason to sell at this stage, we need an impressive injury-free season from him to receive any worthwhile transfer fee. Loan makes complete sense for all parties. If it’s a full season loan - otherwise he is missing half of the of it up until January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/07/28/revealed-truth-chaos-engulfed-derby-county-how-plan-bounce/ So,according to this article,we still owe £5m for Bielik,to be paid in two further instalments. Edited July 28, 2022 by nogbad van 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, nogbad van 50 said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/07/28/revealed-truth-chaos-engulfed-derby-county-how-plan-bounce/ So,according to this article,we still owe £5m for Bielik,to be paid in two further instalments. Ffs lot of money still left that probably won't be recouped ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Birmingham showing an interest. Wonder how much of a loan fee we’ll get from them? Would’ve thought not a lot. Sneaking suspicion Stephens might sign once Bielik has left the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Birmingham showing an interest. Wonder how much of a loan fee we’ll get from them? Would’ve thought not a lot. Sneaking suspicion Stephens might sign once Bielik has left the building. Would love him to stay but if he does leave or go out on loan I think his wages would cover 3 new signings.Bigger picture and all that . SamUltraRam, norwichram and Ramarena 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, nogbad van 50 said: Would love him to stay but if he does leave or go out on loan I think his wages would cover 3 new signings.Bigger picture and all that . I fully agree with that but if he is to be sold or go out on loan, the sooner it happens the better. This would allow us to move in the transfer market now rather than on deadline day nogbad van 50 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Birmingham showing an interest. Wonder how much of a loan fee we’ll get from them? Would’ve thought not a lot. Sneaking suspicion Stephens might sign once Bielik has left the building. I can't see how they afford it as we'll want the wages covered and transfer instalment. Shouldn't the EFL be insisting they rebuild an entire stand first that's riddled with asbestos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Can't believe it myself, but... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 If he leaves for a fee, can it be reinvested? The EFL business plan seems to rule out transfer fees… In all likelihood it’ll just go towards paying off the £5m we still owe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 The best case scenario is that he goes on loan to a big European club such as Galatasary, stays fit to the World Cup, has a good solid World Cup and then picks up big interest in Jan. Otherwise it will just be a loan until his contract expires or his knee pops again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Imperative he is off the wage bill though. Explains why signings are close and we need to be patient. Can't bring anyone in until Bieliks wages are off the wage bill. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: If he leaves for a fee, can it be reinvested? The EFL business plan seems to rule out transfer fees… In all likelihood it’ll just go towards paying off the £5m we still owe. My understanding is yes - because its classed as additional revenue not covered in the budget. StaffsRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, rammieib said: My understanding is yes - because its classed as additional revenue not covered in the budget. Think we have to pay Arsenal £2.5m ,the first instalment,at the end of August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TomTom92 said: Birmingham showing an interest. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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