DavesaRam Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I hope she's waving to the EFL! Mucker1884, uttoxram75 and David Graham Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: But the reason we were slaughtered is because Billy sabotaged our season before it even started. As I said Dave. "We've had this before under the wee Scotsman, We were promoted and slaughtered in the season back to the PL...11points" Buying Claude Davis for £3m was the highlight of our transfer dealings 😡 DavesaRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, ram59 said: What a ridiculous statement to make regarding Covid, you can't possibly say that suddenly losing nearly £30m of income had no effect on the business. Yes, I agree that the business was vulnerable because MM's actions, but without Covid the club would not have gone into administration at that time. If he had continued in the same manner, then it would have happened at a later date, but there were signs that we were starting to reduce the wages before administration, when high earning players were not replaced. I still cannot fathom why clubs weren't given special dispensation due to Covid, which then meant miraculously we werent able to access the 8 million grant/loan. infact the only reason I can think of is because had those things happened, it would probably have saved the club and Parry wouldn't have been able to get Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: But the reason we were slaughtered is because Billy sabotaged our season before it even started. He is famously quoted as saying at Wembley "It should have been Preston's ribbons being tied on the trophy". He then went on holiday for who knows how many weeks, so when he finally set about bringing in Premiership quality players, they'd all been signed up, and we had to make do with what was left (ie the ones nobody else wanted). In addition he tried to take on the Premiership teams with his hoof-ball tactics, which only worked the once when Wimbledon surprised everybody with those tactics), and most certainly don't work when all you've got are Championship quality players. And in the middle of all that he started engineering his dismissal with regular statements to the media about needing the club to back him, when there was actually very little more they could do. He was duly sacked, leaving Paul Porno to take over the reigns of the hamstrung horse. There's nobody left. Then there's Eddie Lewis, Andy Griffin and a whole host of total pap he spent millions on in wages like Fagan and Macken. Better with nobody at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I still cannot fathom why clubs weren't given special dispensation due to Covid, which then meant miraculously we werent able to access the 8 million grant/loan. infact the only reason I can think of is because had those things happened, it would probably have saved the club and Parry wouldn't have been able to get Mel. I think the story went something like this. Rick Parry said...DCFC never asked for a Covid loan DCFC said...we were told by the EFL that if we asked for a Covid loan it would be denied. therealhantsram and Sparkle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: But the reason we were slaughtered is because Billy sabotaged our season before it even started. He is famously quoted as saying at Wembley "It should have been Preston's ribbons being tied on the trophy". He then went on holiday for who knows how many weeks, so when he finally set about bringing in Premiership quality players, they'd all been signed up, and we had to make do with what was left (ie the ones nobody else wanted). In addition he tried to take on the Premiership teams with his hoof-ball tactics, which only worked the once when Wimbledon surprised everybody with those tactics), and most certainly don't work when all you've got are Championship quality players. And in the middle of all that he started engineering his dismissal with regular statements to the media about needing the club to back him, when there was actually very little more they could do. He was duly sacked, leaving Paul Porno to take over the reigns of the hamstrung horse. Excellent post. At the time I had some sympathy with Gasdby, but in hindsight he should perhaps have been ruthless and sacked poisonous Davies after his disrespectful Wembley comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, ram59 said: Make your mind up, you can't say Covid had nothing to do with it and then say that covid accelerated it. You make up your mind. You say that if we had continued in the same manner than regardless of Covid us entering administration would have happened at a later date. But then you try to mitigate that this wouldn't have happened as there were signs that we were moving in the right direction financially. So actually you don't know if Covid didn't appear then we would have entered administration anyway. Down to Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, DavesaRam said: But the reason we were slaughtered is because Billy sabotaged our season before it even started. He started in January, by signing players on long contracts, who were barely championship level, never mind being bought in with the premier in mind. Sparkle and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) The following DET article says David Clowes has settled a historic debt relating to agents fees. It also states we paid £250k in agents fees last summer as they are capped as part of the business, so not ruled out entirely 🤔 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-agents-fees-clowes-8312823 And the club statement it relates to; Edited March 31, 2023 by Caerphilly Ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: The following DET article says David Clowes has settled a historic debt relating to agents fees. It also states we paid £250k in agents fees last summer as they are capped as part of the business, so not ruled out entirely 🤔 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-agents-fees-clowes-8312823 And the club statement it relates to; I'm being particularly dim this afternoon. What does "the club is only permitted to pay a maximum of 5% in intermediary fees on any transfers" mean if we can't pay any actual transfer fees? What is it 5% of? Wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: I'm being particularly dim this afternoon. What does "the club is only permitted to pay a maximum of 5% in intermediary fees on any transfers" mean if we can't pay any actual transfer fees? What is it 5% of? Wages? I’m also baffled, maybe it’s 5% of the contract value? So effectively wages as you suggest. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 If means stupid restrictions get lifted we can sign players on fees be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 A lot of the players in League 1 are only earning £2k a week. If we can pay several players £10k-£12k a week , we must stand a chance of getting the better players , especially if we can get Beilik’s wages sorted for his last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, jimtastic56 said: A lot of the players in League 1 are only earning £2k a week. If we can pay several players £10k-£12k a week , we must stand a chance of getting the better players , especially if we can get Beilik’s wages sorted for his last year. His agent might have been one that we needed to pay to get him moved to Birmingham to save some wages - who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Tamworthram said: I'm being particularly dim this afternoon. What does "the club is only permitted to pay a maximum of 5% in intermediary fees on any transfers" mean if we can't pay any actual transfer fees? What is it 5% of? Wages? It’s a bit like my pay rise 5% of fa= fa. Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CBRammette Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: So does that just mean small enough to not need to be disclosed seperately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestKentRam Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, CBRammette said: So does that just mean small enough to not need to be disclosed seperately? I wonder if it is a matter of timing. The accounts are up to 30th June 2022. David Clowes bought the club on 1st July 2022. Rob Couhig is on record as saying that the money for the compensation to WW came through two days after this. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-rob-couhig-7512397 RadioactiveWaste, RoyMac5 and TuffLuff 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, WestKentRam said: I wonder if it is a matter of timing. The accounts are up to 30th June 2022. David Clowes bought the club on 1st July 2022. Rob Couhig is on record as saying that the money for the compensation to WW came through two days after this. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-rob-couhig-7512397 Anything sizeable would have been referred to in post balance sheet events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, WestKentRam said: I wonder if it is a matter of timing. The accounts are up to 30th June 2022. David Clowes bought the club on 1st July 2022. Rob Couhig is on record as saying that the money for the compensation to WW came through two days after this. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wycombe-rob-couhig-7512397 That’s good then. For a moment I was worried that they hadn’t received this richly deserved payment. CBRammette, SaffyRam, RadioactiveWaste and 5 others 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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