Gritstone Ram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Ha. You think HMRC and the EFL are going to allow the club to splash some cash over the next couple of seasons. No hope and … Might not need much in League 1 but we’ll need a bit more if we go up. Hopefully we’ll be in a better position with player signed etc. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Ha. You think HMRC and the EFL are going to allow the club to splash some cash over the next couple of seasons. No hope and … Road to Utopia……. i-Ram and Will Hughes Hair 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Thanks for posting @RoyMac5. What’s striking about this is that Appleby and Co totally rebuilt us with careful management over 6 years. After throwing everything at trying to stay in the PL they became more prudent, trimmed the wage bill and looked for bargains in the transfer market. Then, bringing in Mac who let the shackles off we got to Wembley in 2014. In the same period from 2015 MM blew a load of cash when it needed evolution not revolution and we ended up in administration. Personally, I’d take 6 years of a careful and steady rebuild. Play the long game. We've as empty a squad as it's ever likely to be bar a couple of players. Do you reckon 'a careful and steady rebuild' would suit Rooney? I reckon if he wants to stay he wouldn't settle for a slow rebuild. He wants 40 players in. So if he gets them it's got to be with the aim of promotion. europia and mwram1973 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: We'd be foolish to pay off football creditors up front, considering a decent chunk of it will be if we win promotion to the PL over the next 2 seasons with Bielik. Was thinking of the bits that have to be paid rather than the add ons. I suspect that we will be loaning Bielik out to release wages and probably a loan fee to cover this years charge. Or use the Knight fee- we know he's off- to cover the bit that needs to be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Thanks for posting @RoyMac5. What’s striking about this is that Appleby and Co totally rebuilt us with careful management over 6 years. After throwing everything at trying to stay in the PL they became more prudent, trimmed the wage bill and looked for bargains in the transfer market. Then, bringing in Mac who let the shackles off we got to Wembley in 2014. In the same period from 2015 MM blew a load of cash when it needed evolution not revolution and we ended up in administration. Personally, I’d take 6 years of a careful and steady rebuild. Play the long game. The new Alex Ferguson who lasted 6 months needed it. FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: We've as empty a squad as it's ever likely to be bar a couple of players. Do you reckon 'a careful and steady rebuild' would suit Rooney? I reckon if he wants to stay he wouldn't settle for a slow rebuild. He wants 40 players in. So if he gets them it's got to be with the aim of promotion. Very true about the squad size. Rooney does want 40 players but that’s at all levels. We need to live within our means and in L1 there are caps. I think clubs are limited to 70% of their turnover on salaries, not sure about fees, etc. Appleby would run a club that worked within that as he and Glick were big advocates of FFP. Would Rooney go with it? The limits are already there so he’d have to work within in it anyway. It’s not how much you have to spend, it’s what you do with it. I think he’s up for it, at least for the next couple of years, and that doesn’t mean promotion is out of the question - providing the bid avoids a 15 point deduction. But we need to get through the next couple of weeks first ?. Edited June 17, 2022 by FlyBritishMidland RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: What do you mean by the Mandela effect ? 3 hours ago, Elwood P Dowd said: False memories 3 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Never heard of the term ? It's an offshoot of simulation theory (ie we're living in some sort of computer simulation) but it's not been reprogrammed properly, a bit like a glitch in the Matrix. The name comes about because, apparently, lots of people "remember" Nelson Mandela dying in prison when in our current Universe that didn't happen. Why do so many people think that? Did his death in captivity lead to too many problems so the simulation was reprogrammed to one where he was freed? Why do I remember Master Bates and Seaman Staines? Of course it's nonsense, but it's a fun idea to play around with. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: We've as empty a squad as it's ever likely to be bar a couple of players. Do you reckon 'a careful and steady rebuild' would suit Rooney? I reckon if he wants to stay he wouldn't settle for a slow rebuild. He wants 40 players in. So if he gets them it's got to be with the aim of promotion. Aren't we going to be limited by a post admin business plan for a couple of seasons anyway? Whoever takes over won't be able to splash the cash so I suspect Rooney will have favours to call in. walkleyowl and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: We've as empty a squad as it's ever likely to be bar a couple of players. Do you reckon 'a careful and steady rebuild' would suit Rooney? I reckon if he wants to stay he wouldn't settle for a slow rebuild. He wants 40 players in. So if he gets them it's got to be with the aim of promotion. Yes that's probably the way Rooney was expecting things to go. It seems Kirchner promised something along those lines, but was unable to fund it. I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Kuskus said: In my opinion if we need to cut costs down then maybe we could do that with our academy and we could implement a similar system to Brentford as they have a B team. I think that’s the one thing we still have going for us, so I’d be gutted if we did that. Also in terms of P&S rules I’m sure the academy doesn’t count towards it, so if we got say Mike Ashley as owner and he was happy to fund the academy then I hope he does. Only got to look at the players who have come through in the last few years and the transfer fees we should have had from them. angieram and Indyram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: It's an offshoot of simulation theory (ie we're living in some sort of computer simulation) but it's not been reprogrammed properly, a bit like a glitch in the Matrix. The name comes about because, apparently, lots of people "remember" Nelson Mandela dying in prison when in our current Universe that didn't happen. Why do so many people think that? Did his death in captivity lead to too many problems so the simulation was reprogrammed to one where he was freed? Why do I remember Master Bates and Seaman Staines? Of course it's nonsense, but it's a fun idea to play around with. This is why you drink in London Arts Club's before capital away days, while the rest of us are in Weatherspoons. Carl Sagan, Day and jono 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, downsouth said: Haha - We call them scummers: I know a few of theirs reciprocate but their main term for us is 'skates': supposedly due to a method that naval folk found to gratify themselves when away at sea back in the distant past. So Portsmouth became a naval superpower because of its seaman's love of roller disco's, every day is a schoolday! GenBr and downsouth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 34 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: We've as empty a squad as it's ever likely to be bar a couple of players. Do you reckon 'a careful and steady rebuild' would suit Rooney? I reckon if he wants to stay he wouldn't settle for a slow rebuild. He wants 40 players in. So if he gets them it's got to be with the aim of promotion. I think requiring 40 players is about right. this would include current players to sign new contracts and also bringing in youth to top up the U23's and U18's. A lot of these could be free agents. It's not going to be expensive to top up the youth and senior squads with the right deals. jono and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Is this east Midlands today thing real or fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 RoyMac5, Jimbo Ram, Stive Pesley and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mckram said: I think that’s the one thing we still have going for us, so I’d be gutted if we did that. Also in terms of P&S rules I’m sure the academy doesn’t count towards it, so if we got say Mike Ashley as owner and he was happy to fund the academy then I hope he does. Only got to look at the players who have come through in the last few years and the transfer fees we should have had from them. Credit for our Academy goes down to Darren Wassall and in the 13 years he's produced a lot of talent through that academy. It's got to be the best outside the premiership. The Scarlet Pimpernel, angieram and Mckram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, I know nuffin said: Is this east Midlands today thing real or fantasy Lars Bohinen Rhapsody? Steve How Hard? and Mostyn6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Yea….love it……where did you find that gem ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Oldben said: https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/sport/football/192842/secrets-of-derbys-failed-takeover-thats-left-them-on-the-brink Its a wonderful headline but what exactly are the 'secrets'? Animal is a Ram and curb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Yea….love it……where did you find that gem ? Especially for you mate, as it winds you up so much. Just see it as a microcosm of this thread, every time you log into it, f00k all has happened. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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