DanS1992 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Not a big fan then..... Definitely not. I can't support an individual who has singlehandedly mismanaged the club to such an extent. I can't help but wonder if Mel was not local but a foreign owner, would the fanbase stay this quiet about his shambolic running of the club. My money is on protests to out him if it was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby blood Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Hate the EFL, but to say Mel is blameless is stupid, look where we was in 2014 and have a look now, some on here are blind to how foolish Mel has been over the last 6/7 years, but its all about opinions, for me Mel has ruined the club, especially in the last couple of years. Asanovic70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, rammieib said: Don't often 100% agree with David, but this is spot on. Imagine you as a consumer, having a mortgage on a house, you pay the bank what was agreed for the last three years, then another bank comes along and says it isn't fair and then you as an end consumer get a £10k fine. That wouldn't be fair would it? We’ve been operating as the accounts have been fine as they have been approved and signed off. As with your analogy, you’re not going to save that kind of money if you’re not expecting a fine. Same with the club, spending money. It’s just wrong. If the EFL have decided that our accounting method is actually not allowed, ok, that’s fine, understood, but don’t go looking for retrospective punishment. Say from the 23/24 season onwards all clubs must use X accounting method. Done, dusted, no complaints. jono, LouiseDCFC23, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnstile Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Curtains said: Noticed some people having a go . We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers Are you for real.Never read such rubbish. wixman1884, Curtains, MickD and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Just to be clear, Wycombe aren't the bad guys and ignoring the moralistic stuff, they have a slim chance of staying up by this, so have got to push it, and if they are pushing it of course they have to *say* it's all about truth, justice and fair play. I've no issue with them adopting that position, because any club in their position would. My loathing towards Gibson and the EFL is pretty strong. I loath them for the process. However, Mel and Pearce are ultimatly culpable as the stewards of DCFC. Asanovic70, Wolfie and MickD 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Turnstile said: Are you for real.Never read such rubbish. that's because you haven't been on here long enough..... JG400, Mick Brolly, LouiseDCFC23 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAllestreeRam Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 When Mel bought the majority share of the club we we had finished third, had a manager proven at a higher level, a young hungry squad with some real talent. We finished last season and would have been relegated if everyone started on the same points, a talentless squad made up of over hyped academy players and far past it senior players. The club no longer owns its stadium and we have a manager with no experience and one of the worst records in recent history. To me that is terrible and we have the right to question that. I struggle to see where the EFL are to blame in that beyond a change in accounting policy. Derby blood, jimtastic56, MickD and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Just to be clear, Wycombe aren't the bad guys and ignoring the moralistic stuff, they have a slim chance of staying up by this, so have got to push it, and if they are pushing it of course they have to *say* it's all about truth, justice and fair play. I've no issue with them adopting that position, because any club in their position would. They know the EFL regulations. They choose to push it which causes more chaos. No sympathy. MickD and Turnstile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Just to be clear, Wycombe aren't the bad guys and ignoring the moralistic stuff, they have a slim chance of staying up by this, so have got to push it, and if they are pushing it of course they have to *say* it's all about truth, justice and fair play. I've no issue with them adopting that position, because any club in their position would. My loathing towards Gibson and the EFL is pretty strong. I loath them for the process. However, Mel and Pearce are ultimatly culpable as the stewards of DCFC. Wycombe were going to appeal and made their feelings known. They played with freedom knowing they were down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 The point I think Curtains is making is that we don't have to play the blame game. Of course DCFC have been mismanaged BUT at this juncture that isn't the point. We are being attacked and as a club it would be nice to fight back on a united front. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheikh n Bake Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Curtains said: Noticed some people having a go . We are Derby fans and we should stick together and back the Club Its easy to be derogatory about the owners in this situation but the real enemy is the EFL They are an absolute joke of an institution and don’t get me started on Steve Gibson and Wycombe Wanderers Hi Mel. Jourdan and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I will blame who I want thanks. Those twits kept putting the bullets in the gun and now are surprised someone pulled the trigger ?♂️ Turnstile, Jourdan, Curtains and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 Remember fans applauded MM for sticking up for Derby. Those same fans having a go now. Sheikh n Bake and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: Remember fans applauded MM for sticking up for Derby. Those same fans having a go now. Remember the last time we went 3 or 4 months without something going wrong at the club due to Mel's decisions? Me neither. jimtastic56, Turnstile, Jourdan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAllestreeRam Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: Remember fans applauded MM for sticking up for Derby. Those same fans having a go now. But this has all been self induced.... just do the accounts properly, do it the same as everyone else, why give them the ammunition in the first place. Edited June 24, 2021 by TheAllestreeRam Jourdan, atherstoneram, LittleEatonRam and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 I mean there’s literally a set a rules set out for a clubs to follow, the fact that we’ve gone off piste was the decision of the hierarchy. The never ending, drawn out process you blame the EFL for but Morris and Pearce must shoulder the majority for me. Turnstile, LittleEatonRam and Jourdan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, Curtains said: Wycombe were going to appeal and made their feelings known. They played with freedom knowing they were down Are you sure? This part of their official statement: The club trusts that the correct decision will be reached by the independent commission which has been appointed to judge Derby County’s case. We respect the process and are not contemplating legal action at this time, contrary to media speculation. MickD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheAllestreeRam said: But this has been all self induced.... just do the accounts properly, do it the same as everyone else, why give them the ammunition in the first place. The root of this is the stupid acceptance by the EFL that relegated clubs from the PL can rely on 4 years worth of parachute payments that ensure they have the unfair advantage of retaining or buying the best players thus disadvantaging others in the league who don't benefit from this unfair income. Mel has tried his hardest to circumnavigate his way around this grossly unfair system in an effort to make us competitive. Edited June 24, 2021 by The Scarlet Pimpernel Day, Hector was the best, Ellafella and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Are you sure? This part of their official statement: The club trusts that the correct decision will be reached by the independent commission which has been appointed to judge Derby County’s case. We respect the process and are not contemplating legal action at this time, contrary to media speculation. That was after when they back tracked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: They know the EFL regulations. They choose to push it which causes more chaos. No sympathy. They're not goodies either, I don't care about them, but i just wouldn't cast them as being anything other than incidental and any club in thire position would adopt this approach. I just think Wycombe aren't the people to be having a go at - if it was wednesday or rotherham who could potentially benefit, it would be them screaming. That's just a reality. Also, Wycombe can't appeal anything between the EFL and DCFC in this case, they are not a party to the dispute. Turnstile and MickD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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