Crewton Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 So we don't know how much DCFC have offered or how much Cardiff are asking for, but for some posters the club are being shortsighted for not simply paying the asking price. Have I got that right? Anag Ram, ossieram and Comrade 86 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, Crewton said: So we don't know how much DCFC have offered or how much Cardiff are asking for, but for some posters the club are being shortsighted for not simply paying the asking price. Have I got that right? Yep. Crewton and Jackal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 23 hours ago, rammieib said: But what price is too high? If they want 500k and we’re not prepared to go that far, it’s awful from us. If Warne believes he can add to us and he’s a Championship level player, then pay Championship level fees. If Cardiff are wanting seven figures, I get it but if not, we’re wasting too much time on messing around over 200 or 300k. I hope you want to buy my house next time I flit. Crewton and nickmi16 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Put some clever structuring in there and get it done. I think he is an important signing for us, he was a bit of a talisman and his being in the team next year carries a certain momentum and consistency. Ultimately even £750k for a first team regular in this division isn't overpriced, but if we can't/won't pay that then we should be able to table something that is both appealing and also delays some payment until we are happy/in a position to do so. Another £250k in the event of us staying up, or even stick one in for going up within 5 years - we can easily sp*nk £500k of any potential Premier League windfall then on the offchance it happens. S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Do we know if its the wages Ebou is asking that may also be a sticking point or just Cardiff's fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamInSweden Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 15 hours ago, Rample said: Put some clever structuring in there and get it done. I think he is an important signing for us, he was a bit of a talisman and his being in the team next year carries a certain momentum and consistency. Ultimately even £750k for a first team regular in this division isn't overpriced, but if we can't/won't pay that then we should be able to table something that is both appealing and also delays some payment until we are happy/in a position to do so. Another £250k in the event of us staying up, or even stick one in for going up within 5 years - we can easily sp*nk £500k of any potential Premier League windfall then on the offchance it happens. I don’t think we should be paying much for Adams. Yes he was amazing for us, but that was in league 1. He barely featured in the championship, and I doubt he has a future at Cardiff. It isn’t like he is 21 either. 500k would be more than fair. Patrick Rams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 16 minutes ago, RamInSweden said: I don’t think we should be paying much for Adams. Yes he was amazing for us, but that was in league 1. He barely featured in the championship, and I doubt he has a future at Cardiff. It isn’t like he is 21 either. 500k would be more than fair. He'd been injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 500K is fair i agree but if it was just an extra 100 or 150K to get it done I'd say get it done as he's a big influence and character and 650 is not a lot in the grand scheme of things especially with the Kellyman extra money RedSox and norwichram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkRam Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Whilst I enjoyed and appreciate what he did for the promotion push last year I think we should stick to our guns. In his career he has been a National League and League 2 player other than when he came to us. The championship is another step up for him at 28 years of age, would like us to sign him but on our terms not Cardiffs. Patrick Rams and Derby4Me 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 On 27/06/2024 at 20:00, S8TY said: Let's get this right Ebou is a very important signing for this Club He is an international and his work rate alone is worth 500k Lets not pretend its ok if we don't sign him we'd be very disappointed if we didn't get him , if the difference is 150k lets say i say just getit done we have earnt a bit of money from Kellymann and Ebou is not a gamble we know exactly what we are getting Agree we should sign him, yes he’s an international but for The Gambia, a tiny country who are 132nd in FIFAs world ranking. I reckon I could get in their team, well, if it wasn’t for my age and my three knee replacements. Oh and my bad back…. Tamworthram, nogbad van 50 and norwichram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 13 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: Agree we should sign him, yes he’s an international but for The Gambia, a tiny country who are 132nd in FIFAs world ranking. I reckon I could get in their team, well, if it wasn’t for my age and my three knee replacements. Oh and my bad back…. Assuming you aren’t Gambian, that might be the biggest hurdle of all! richgee1976, richinspain, Mostyn6 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I agree with what has been said, fair enough he is on the books of a rival Championship team but he hasn't even made a dozen appearances at that level. £500k would be the max I would go to. We certainly shouldn't be held to ransom by Cardiff, if they are playing hard ball over the fee move on to other targets. BaianoPOTY98 and Patrick Rams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, S8TY said: 500K is fair i agree but if it was just an extra 100 or 150K to get it done I'd say get it done as he's a big influence and character and 650 is not a lot in the grand scheme of things especially with the Kellyman extra money What if that £150k could be better spent elsewhere and is the difference between us signing a top end CF or not? Or we think we can get a better CM for £650k? Everyone has there price and so far, Cardiff are asking for more than we're prepared to pay for him. Ram-Alf, Carnero and Tamworthram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I really want us to sign this guy but lets not be held to ransom if the numbers don't add up. Wiser heads than mine at the club will know what we can afford and are prepared to pay and indeed what we have offered and what Cardiff may have said they demand. Unfortunately, if Cardiff are being unrealistic about the value of a peripheral player to a mid-table side, who is in the last year of his contract and who they were happy to loan out last year, then we have to grudgingly look at other targets. As Adams perfectly illustrated in his loan spell last season though, that combative all-action midfielder is exactly what we need though, but what we can't let happen is a divisional rival piss us about until our alternatives have all been snapped up. This role and better forward options will be massive factors in our chances this year. Failure to properly fill either will leave us with a big problems. DCFC know the numbers and we don't so we just have to trust the club to be making the right calls on this one. BAFO time I guess. May Contain Nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 The fee isn't going to be derived on what we can pay, nor what we value Adams at. The fee is going to be simple postering from both sides, one side want to make as much as possible on their asset and the other wants to sign an asset as little as possible. As I said, I am 99.9% sure that Adams will be a Derby player but there will be plenty of back and forth before that happens. The value of Adams in a Paul Warne's Derby side was evident last season, League One or not, he addressed the balance of the team and we won promotion on the back of it. It doesn't happen without him. I even think this could go until after the start of the season, but ultimately the outcome by the start of September will be Adams in a Derby shirt. Mark my words. YouRams and S8TY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 28 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: What if that £150k could be better spent elsewhere and is the difference between us signing a top end CF or not? Or we think we can get a better CM for £650k? Everyone has there price and so far, Cardiff are asking for more than we're prepared to pay for him. 150 is not a lot extra if that's what it takes I don't mean spend silly money or go over budget For me 500k is enough but if it took another 100-150 to get it done i'd say go for it because he's influential and makes a big difference He's not as much of a gamble as someone who's never played for us and still think he'll play a pivotal role in our first season back, he's a proper 100 per cent type of player and we need those sort of characters could say the same about a 500k fee or a 650k fee it could be better spent elsewhere but if thats the difference between getting him or not i'd say the extra 100-150 is money well spent if that is all it took Rample 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Just now, S8TY said: 150 is not a lot extra if that's what it takes I don't mean spend silly money or go over budget For me 500k is enough but if it took another 100-150 to get it done i'd say go for it because he's influential and makes a big difference He's not as much of a gamble as someone who's never played for us and still think he'll play a pivotal role in our first season back, he's a proper 100 per cent type of player and we need those sort of characters could say the same about a 500k fee or a 650k fee it could be better spent elsewhere but if thats the difference between getting him or not i'd say the extra 100-150 is money well spent if that is all it took Should we start crowdfunding now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 28 minutes ago, Alty_Ram said: I really want us to sign this guy but lets not be held to ransom if the numbers don't add up. Wiser heads than mine at the club will know what we can afford and are prepared to pay and indeed what we have offered and what Cardiff may have said they demand. Unfortunately, if Cardiff are being unrealistic about the value of a peripheral player to a mid-table side, who is in the last year of his contract and who they were happy to loan out last year, then we have to grudgingly look at other targets. As Adams perfectly illustrated in his loan spell last season though, that combative all-action midfielder is exactly what we need though, but what we can't let happen is a divisional rival piss us about until our alternatives have all been snapped up. This role and better forward options will be massive factors in our chances this year. Failure to properly fill either will leave us with a big problems. DCFC know the numbers and we don't so we just have to trust the club to be making the right calls on this one. BAFO time I guess. To be fair we don’t know we are being held to ransom do we? Random posters coming up with random figures. Tamworthram and Black ('n' White) Sheep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) In this thread: all the world's shittest negotiators gathered in one place. Of course we'll sign this guy. And our transfer team will do their best to keep the cost down. Doesn't matter if it's today or the end of August. Edited July 1 by Thierry Ennui Bob Gnarly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool_as_custard Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Perhaps the extra bunce we are due to get from the first instalment of the Kellyman transfer to Chelsea might free up some extra cash for Ebou? If Chelski pay 25% as a first instalment and the sell-on is 15% then we could be looking at £700k soon that we can't have budgeted for. This is a who blinks first scenario. If Ebou wants it enough then we will likely get him, unless Cardiff are asking ridiculous money. Would also expect us to be linked to DMs in the media as we move through July to force their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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