norwichram Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: You’ve got your view which I respect, but I don’t share it. 🍻 I appreciate that Caerphilly Ram and likewise. Let’s hope tomorrow they build on the performance from midweek and if we score players don’t celebrate by taking the mick but actually with the fans. I mean the linesman presumably ruled out NMLs second goal in retaliation for a poor celebration of the first .. mr can’t shoot on target for toffee finally scored one (good goal mind) Edited October 27, 2023 by norwichram Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: While I appreciate the sentiment behind what you’re saying based on their experience as a management team to date, the phrase “outside noise” and Barker’s response to a question about it is not indicative of a “small club mentality”, it’s been used by many more prominent figures in sport than Richie Barker. I’m sure I’ve read Bill Belicheck, the very successful coach of the NFL side the New England Patriots, has it up around their locker room. And I found this fun little clip on Twitter/X of various footballing luminaries saying it (and Dion Dublin peering through windows 😂 🤷🏻♂️) I really don’t see it as the slight against the fans that some do, I do of course respect the opinions of those who feel offended by the comment I personally don’t see as offensive. One last bit of evidence to support my stance (and hopefully help others feel less aggrieved), it’s a phrase used in an interview by a well loved wardrobe formerly of this parish in this interview when on Scotland duty; https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-martin-says-scotland-players-9012556.amp CM said; “That brings with it a little bit of pressure but, listen, we expect a lot of ourselves. “We need to ignore all the outside noise and understand what we’ve got in the dressing room, set our own targets and live up to those.” I wasn’t referencing the outside noise comments, rather their overall approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 11 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: When they give us something to cheer about then they can go on about outside noise and not expect a come back from the fans! 11 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: That’s literally what happened. They won (which fans should cheer) and when asked about outside noise Barker said they have to ignore it and focus on doing their jobs (which they’d just done…by winning). 10 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. An average performance looking no better than when they came in over a year ago, righteo. A perfect example of someone moving the goalposts. Did you not cheer the victory @RoyMac5 Caerphilly Ram, Wolfie20, Tamworthram and 6 others 3 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 26/10/2023 at 09:00, DRBee said: Pompous. This is a football forum not a management training course. Not pompous, just a measured logical response to an emotionally aggressive naive post. Tamworthram and Chester40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Sorry , I just don’t get it , and as for the management team being arrogant and stubborn it’s almost as if some think they are reading this forum and totally ignoring the advice / direction that the amateur managers are giving them which is clearly right , he was asked about outside noise and he said how they deal with it in terms of doing they’re job 🤷🏻♂️ Caerphilly Ram, FlyBritishMidland, Eatonram and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, WystonRam said: I wasn’t referencing the outside noise comments, rather their overall approach. Fair enough, as you were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 47 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: A perfect example of someone moving the goalposts. Did you not cheer the victory @RoyMac5 Lol. As I said one average performance no better (worse even) than when they took over a year or more ago! Did you ignore the pertinent point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: A perfect example of someone moving the goalposts. Did you not cheer the victory @RoyMac5 Have you not met RoyMac before? Wolfie20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) Edit. Edited October 28, 2023 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 When I see how sensitive some are on here, I just thank god they don't have to spend time in the company of me and my mates, they would be in tears in minutes. Foreveram, Gaspode, jono and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, ossieram said: When I see how sensitive some are on here, I just thank god they don't have to spend time in the company of me and my mates, they would be in tears in minutes. Yep a lifetime in factories, down mines and building sites leaves me at a loss as to how people react to stuff sometimes 😂 DerbyAleMan and ossieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichram Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Archied said: Sorry , I just don’t get it , and as for the management team being arrogant and stubborn it’s almost as if some think they are reading this forum and totally ignoring the advice / direction that the amateur managers are giving them which is clearly right , he was asked about outside noise and he said how they deal with it in terms of doing they’re job 🤷🏻♂️ My posts - and I believe the posts of others - are not suggesting that his comments on this solitary answer are arrogant and stubborn.. more that his answer has been interpreted by us alongside other behaviours to show arrogance and stubbornness. the other behaviours for example are coming out regularly after the game and saying that there wasn’t much wrong with the performance/thought the lads played well.. after an absolutely sh*t performance where many posters observed that there was little structure to our play or fight or football. And overall it was crap. Like crapper than crap. Proper CRAP in Fact. If you like this football then I hope you are enjoying the season and no wonder you are sticking up for them and interpreting things differently to me and some others. Selecting too many defensive players consistently when we mainly agree that we couldn’t break the opposition down. selecting players perhaps more out of reputation maybe - ie Connor H earlier in the season/NML when he was knackered if you can’t see that his answer to this question could have been an opportunity to build a bridge with the fans then I guess we have nothing further to discuss other than to agree that we are both grateful to have a club and up the rams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Interesting stat - Barker got sacked by Portsmouth in League 2 after only 5 wins in 20 games. They won the 5 games immediately after he was sacked. Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, Walkley Ram and RoyMac5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 On 26/10/2023 at 08:30, ziggazagga said: My son and I travel home and away at great expense to support this team. I am not and never will be 'outside noise ' . You should be grateful we care enough to have an opinion of your hopeless coaching ability, trying to play a style that was fit for the 80s. Never take this club nor the supporters for granted whilst you leach off our backs getting very well paid for a substandard job Did I miss something? I never heard this interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Ram Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I've decided i don't like Mr Barker Abu Derby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Seaside Ram said: I've decided i don't like Mr Barker Me neither. I wonder what the players think of him jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Interesting stat - Barker got sacked by Portsmouth in League 2 after only 5 wins in 20 games. They won the 5 games immediately after he was sacked. New manager bounce? Barker's replacement only lasted 13 months at Portsmouth with a win rate of only 31% after he'd been appointed as a permanent manager. Edited October 28, 2023 by Tamworthram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 It may be unfair but I just find the pair of them come across more like non league managers. Warne with his hat and hoodie yesterday, Barker with his tops always zipped up to the top standing like a sergeant on the parade ground. Both never utter anything beyond old fashioned football cliches. Run more, win battles, quality on the ball, "the lads" trained well. The use of player nick names - Collo, Sibs, Barks - as if they are just one big happy group. Everything about them just grates. Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, RoyMac5 and strawhillram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaside Ram Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, trappatoni said: It may be unfair but I just find the pair of them come across more like non league managers. Warne with his hat and hoodie yesterday, Barker with his tops always zipped up to the top standing like a sergeant on the parade ground. Both never utter anything beyond old fashioned football cliches. Run more, win battles, quality on the ball, "the lads" trained well. The use of player nick names - Collo, Sibs, Barks - as if they are just one big happy group. Everything about them just grates. 19 minutes ago, trappatoni said: It may be unfair but I just find the pair of them come across more like non league managers. Warne with his hat and hoodie yesterday, Barker with his tops always zipped up to the top standing like a sergeant on the parade ground. Both never utter anything beyond old fashioned football cliches. Run more, win battles, quality on the ball, "the lads" trained well. The use of player nick names - Collo, Sibs, Barks - as if they are just one big happy group. Everything about them just grates. Spot on , those bloody nicknames have grated me since day 1 ck- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 He and Warne do make a great double act. Low on comedy of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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