Derby County vs Stevenage (A) Match Thread

[Carnero]

27 minutes ago, SSD said:

Got nothing on tonight

Not even a robe?

[Wignall12]

32 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said:

What… then change again end of the season

have we learnt nothing ? 

Apparently not 

[Wignall12]

30 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

The thing that gets to me is, ok, we turn them into a team that fights more and wins the physical batles, but when we do win them, then what? From what I've seen of the season so far a tiny bit more actual nouse in the final third probably would have us top six.

I hate this every time there's a "board of passing to each other lets gets a proper aggressive get at em manager" our team is 💩 at doing it and our fans hate watching it. No one is looking back back at Gary Rwett's side with misty eyes and Nigel Pearson was an abortion.

Fed up.

Going nowhere trying to pass and move and score perfect goals is preferable to going nowhere trying to make skilled footballers out thug thug teams who are just better at it.

 

 

Just think , could be worse , we might be Sheff Wed !!

[BramcoteRam84]

33 minutes ago, Miggins said:

I think he has given this club the very best shot he could.

If it's not enough, then fair play. He has done his best.

But he is not a 'clown'. He certainly is not.

I really hate seeing this term leveled at him.

Whatever your opinions of him, please think before you post unkind comments.

Yours, Prissy Miggins

 

Also seen one or two referencing “clownes”, this is also bang out of order. We owe him enormously. He’s just a fan like us who had the wherewithal to do what we would all do. Despite seemingly getting wrong with warne he’s still our saviour 

[Goldstar]

What a flat situation we find ourselves in. There's been a few times in Warne's early interviews when he's used quite negative language about what he hoped he could achieve, and i remember thinking it didn't seem right but hoped i was being too cynical. 

Unfortunately now there's a disconnect between the management and the players with the fans. When a player is motioning towards the fans after scoring, you know it's not good. No they shouldn't expect abuse, however, they get paid a handsome amount to ignore immature chants, sticking it to other hard working fans who didn't partake in said chanting is abysmal to me, and this needs fixing quick. 

[RammingStone66]

22 minutes ago, eddielewis said:

I get that as well. I think he has totally underestimated the actual size of the club and the position it was/still in and the structure and footballing philosophy we have played to for near around the last 10 years. It's hard to write that without looking big headed but that's what we are and it's weird that it seems he's quite shameful of that. His defeated attitude towards winning back the fans in the interview this afternoon just shows that he's not totally invested in the football club. 

He's painted in a good light that he's open in interviews but i see him as very very suffocating, inflexible and stubborn. At a time like this I bet his insistence on chatting on whatsapp and needing to be in the personal lives of players especially let's say tomorrow after this afternoons performance must really rub the wrong way on certain players. 

Another aspect that stuck with me was an Rams Tv interview he did in spain after we sold Knight when he said along the lines of 'player's on the last year of their contract are not going to be committed performance wise'. Most of our squad is out of contract in the summer? I feel he sounded his own death knell with these players.

I genuinely think he is actually quite passive aggressive at times and has took multiple jabs at the club, how it's set up and towards the fans. A lot of it was missed, seen as a joke, early in the season or we won the next game so it's forgotten.

He has said things early in the season that made me think he was reading fans comments and was letting them get to him too.

I can't imagine that passive aggression goes down well with players especially ones who feel they are more technically adept than the average Rotherham player Warne was signing. And probably even worse if he is Whatsapping them too lol

 

I agree he has probably underestimated alot of things at the club. Probably thought he could mold a club just coming out of a devastating period in his own image and we would be Rotherham but with money 🤣

Good spot on that interview in Spain, as I remember he said a few weird things while over there, but the general positivity of a new season had people not really looking Into his words

[Ken Tram]

1 hour ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

1 hour ago, IslandExile said:

Isn't it the lowest the club has been in history?

No because I’m sure there were times last season this season and under cox and the 50s where we were lower. Can only go on where we finish at the season. Any lower than 7th at the end of the season would be the worst in our history

In 1890/91, we finished just one position above the very bottom of the football league! (Although this was also 10 from the top of the league!)

We are currently 39th from the very bottom of the football league.

We've got 39 places to fall before we beat our lowest position ... if we are looking at it from the bottom-perspective!

[RoyMac5]

"And Warne said: "I just don't think we won enough battles. That's the honest truth. It was a different sort of game. They are going to turn you all the time. They are physical and don't win enough battles collectively.

"There are more games in this in League One then there are Exeter at home. But when push came to shove I just didn't think we were physical enough. Our first half performance wasn't great and apart from two free-kicks I didn't see them scoring. In the second half, we started the game really well, we got into some unbelievable positions and Conor Washington has a really good chance and if you score it becomes 2-2 but the longer the game goes on, you are susceptible to the third goal I appreciate that."

Who wins the 'Warne Bingo'?

[Van der MoodHoover]

59 minutes ago, Curtains said:

Really poor today.  
 
Don’t know where to start 

Are you still a fan Curtains?

Of sticking with the manager that is....

[DavesaRam]

Well I tried to give up the will to live, but after watching that, the will couldn't be bothered to leave. So having shown, yet again, that when we play FOOTBALL (are you watching, Paul?) we do well. Yet again, our hopes were raised to slightly above subterranean level that Paul had got the message and gone attacking again, all he did was send the same lads out, bar the enforced change because of Waghorn, but instead of playing them off the park, we tried to do the physical, and out-muscle them. I know he had thug type players at Rotherham, but hasn't actually brought any here, so his entire game plan was not a plan at all. Sadly he telegraphed the outcome in his pre-match interview where he spoke about us running harder than them for longer than  them. Hello palm. Meet face. Hello face, meet palm.

Stevenage pressed us hard all match, but instead of playing through or around, or even over the press to tire them out, we tried to just take them on. Dial in their nasty habit that every challenge had to include a shove, kick, whack or whatever and we were onto a loser from the start. Steve Evans also played us well with his own pre-math talk of refereeing decisions going against him, and that it is time that it stopped. "Hold our beer", Derby County should have said, but for sure the match officials leaned towards Stevenage for the entire match. So seconds before the booking to the Stevenage player for his late challenge on Mendez-Laing, Max bird was scythed down, taking both feet off the ground right in front of the buffoon in orange, with nothing given. This went on all match, while all the opposition had to do was fall like flies and he gave free- kicks. So both free-kicks which led to goals were the wrong call, and Fozzies yellow card was also completely wrong. That doesn't excuse us totally failing to  defend the free-kicks once they had been wrongly given. And if Fozzies tackle, which got the ball, was a free-kick and a card, the tackle when Washington went down in the area was a penalty and a yellow card as well. It was almost identical to Fozzies tackle, but clearly Steve Evans' comments about match officials not favouring Stevenage did their job. But the bottom line is we got just about everything wrong today. AS I said earlier, the ref was crap, but we were crapper.

Anybody going on Tuesday?

Edited October 28, 2023 by DavesaRam

[CBRammette]

At family event in restaurant below street level with no signal for match. Just read thread through all of this thread. Even after a few pornstar martinis performance sounds a stinker. I havent read a single positive comment. Very sad for Clowes and us that its come to this but a leader needs to own his mistakes. we are going in reverse and Warne & Co need to go. 

[IlsonDerby]

40 minutes ago, nottingram said:

Absolutely has to go. It must be at about 99% of fans who want him gone now.

Let’s get a young progressive manager in and start doing what we should have been doing when we had a great chance to reset 18 months ago. Sign young players, create value in the squad through generating assets, see ourselves as a selling club who reinvest what we bring in. Mistakes have been made, learn from them.

Still thousands in south stand who start ‘Paul warnes black and white army’ every home game. 
 

Must say there’s probably fewer and fewer each week joining in but many must still be behind him.

[Old Spalding Ram]

Pinched from the Rotherham forum regards today result.

Fatty Evans has won the battle of our former managers. Stevenage 3 v 1 Derby.  Absolutely painful result for the Rams and PW is looking like a dead man walking right now.

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Oh dear oh dear, I was expecting Derby to win tbh, glad they didn’t even if I had them on predictions.  Think fans are singing **** again

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Derby fans in absolute meltdown! Tactically Evans did a right job on them. Apparently Warne clapped the Derby fans for about 4 seconds from the dug out and disappeared.

Read into that what you want!

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When he managed us we had some good stuff. 

Some average and some poor. 

He’s showing that if the players don’t run through brick walls for him which he installed with us he’s not very good tactically or makes good subs. 

It’s inevitable unfortunately he’s just not big enough for a club like that. 

You take your chances and you have to take the consequences. 

He’s a one trick pony.

…………………….no further comment required

[norwichram]

2 hours ago, 8Leeds said:

If he was cattle he’d of been minced, turned into patties and frozen six weeks ago. 

I’ll have a Warne burger please - not so much cheese though 

[SSD]

[Premier ram]

At the game today, not been as disappointed as this for a long time, really wanted the manager to succeed but sadly this looks like just a pipe dream, players looked bewildered as the 2nd half progressed some playing in 2 or 3 different positions in a matter of minutes, the atmosphere at the end within the away support was less toxic than Shrewsbury more an air of resignation, over to you David Clowes your next decision could be a big one in our clubs immediate future

[RoyMac5]

 

[Curtains]

32 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Are you still a fan Curtains?

Of sticking with the manager that is....

Very sorry to say.   No and it’s a shame. 

[Van der MoodHoover]

1 minute ago, Curtains said:

Very sorry to say.   No and it’s a shame. 

You gave him a decent chance tho.

[hintonsboots]

25 minutes ago, CBRammette said:

Even after a few pornstar martinis performance sounds a stinker.

I think Stormy Daniels would do a better job than PW.