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19 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said:

4. Billy Davies. 5. Nigel Pearson.

Ah, come on. Davies was the last manager to get us promoted to the Premier League, and when he got there found out a) he didn't have the squad or the tactics to compete and b) there wasn't any money to buy better players.

Yes we were awful that year, and yes Davies didn't exactly cover himself in glory with some of the things he said when he left.

But he isn't a worse Derby manager than Nigel Pearson.

 

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46 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said:

1. Paul Jewell. 2. Phil Brown. 3. Tommy Docherty. 4. Billy Davies. 5. Nigel Pearson. 6. Colin Murphy. 7. Paul Clement. 8. Colin Addison. 9. Peter Taylor. 10. Colin Todd. 

I wouldn't have Phil Brown in this. Similarly, Paul Clement - we were 5th in the league when he was removed. 

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52 minutes ago, vonwright said:

Ah, come on. Davies was the last manager to get us promoted to the Premier League, and when he got there found out a) he didn't have the squad or the tactics to compete and b) there wasn't any money to buy better players.

Yes we were awful that year, and yes Davies didn't exactly cover himself in glory with some of the things he said when he left.

But he isn't a worse Derby manager than Nigel Pearson.

 

Billie Davies is the only manager to have got us promoted in the last 27 years… he may have left an awful legacy, but his achievement is undeniable.

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1 hour ago, Archie said:

I wouldn't have Phil Brown in this. Similarly, Paul Clement - we were 5th in the league when he was removed. 

Sorry Archie but Brown was a disaster can you remember 3-1 defeat to Colchester in the FA Cup after the match Radio Derby interviewed him and a number of fans told him to f*** Off out the club on the Monday he was sacked. Clement's football was boring football. 

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2 hours ago, vonwright said:

Ah, come on. Davies was the last manager to get us promoted to the Premier League, and when he got there found out a) he didn't have the squad or the tactics to compete and b) there wasn't any money to buy better players.

Yes we were awful that year, and yes Davies didn't exactly cover himself in glory with some of the things he said when he left.

But he isn't a worse Derby manager than Nigel Pearson.

 

Davies was a terrible manager just moaned and moaned was always stirring trouble and he bought Claude Davies, Eddie Lewis, Robert Earnshaw say no more. 

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6 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said:

Davies was a terrible manager just moaned and moaned was always stirring trouble and he bought Claude Davies, Eddie Lewis, Robert Earnshaw say no more. 

He has always said the players that got bought were not the ones he wanted. That because Gadsby was looking to sell the club they didn't want to spend the kind of money we needed to spend to have a chance of staying up.

Davies barely played Earnshaw and do you really think he went into pre-season meetings demanding Eddie Lewis?

It was something of a miracle we went up with the squad we had - players like Leacock and McEverley started the play-off final. We needed massive investment to have any sort of a chance and it didn't happen. 

Davies is not a likeable man and he didn't handle that season well. His limitations as a tactician and man manager were clear for all to see. But it's ridiculous to put all the blame for that season - and those signings - on him, while apparently giving him no credit for getting us promoted in the first place.

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2 hours ago, Dethorn said:

1 Tommy Docherty

2 Tommy Docherty

3 Tommy Docherty

4 Tommy Docherty

5 Tommy Docherty

6 Tommy Docherty

7 Tommy Docherty

8 Tommy Docherty

9 Tommy Docherty

10 Tommy Docherty

 

I take it you weren't a Tommy Docherty fan Dethron? Must admit the man was a disaster sold our biggest assets like Gemmill to Forest, Rioch and Todd and just bought garbage to replace them. 

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16 minutes ago, vonwright said:

He has always said the players that got bought were not the ones he wanted. That because Gadsby was looking to sell the club they didn't want to spend the kind of money we needed to spend to have a chance of staying up.

Davies barely played Earnshaw and do you really think he went into pre-season meetings demanding Eddie Lewis?

It was something of a miracle we went up with the squad we had - players like Leacock and McEverley started the play-off final. We needed massive investment to have any sort of a chance and it didn't happen. 

Davies is not a likeable man and he didn't handle that season well. His limitations as a tactician and man manager were clear for all to see. But it's ridiculous to put all the blame for that season - and those signings - on him, while apparently giving him no credit for getting us promoted in the first place.

Billy Davies has proved himself to be a serial liar and relentless self publicist, so whilst I appreciate that money was tight and he wasn't able to sign exactly who he wanted I simply don't believe that he had 0 input on transfer targets. He played Earnshaw at Forest, so he can't have thought he was that bad. He played Davis at Preston. Also, given that he once threw a tantrum because Doughty wouldn't sign Gareth Bale, I would absolutely love to see his original list of targets for our Premier League campaign. I suspect they would've been laughably ambitious.

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