PistoldPete Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, angieram said: Are the administrators actively trying to shut us down now? What possible financial advantage is there in this to the club? If his contract is up what can they do? r_wilcockson, Crewton, RoyMac5 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, BucksRam said: This really is death by a thousand cuts isn't it. Not sure how much more we can take of this. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Hopeless. Completely hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, Rich84 said: That's standard compensation isn't it for under 24's that have been developed? so is that still applicable even though it is outside the same FA? So pre contract there is same as compensation if he'd just signed for Watford on July 1st? That's FIFA compensation. If transferring to an English club, it would go to PFCC due to having a professional contract. Notable PFCC cases in the past 6 years being: Ings - £8m + 20% sell on profit Tyrese Campbell - £1.75m + 20% sell on profit Ampadu - £2.5m + 20% sell on profit Harvey Elliott - £4.3m + 20% sell on Rich84 and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottmRAM Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 It's what Rooney's reaction will be that worries me. You can only push a person so far. Ted McMinn Football Genius, Premier ram, rammieib and 3 others 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Disappointed? yes Expected? 100%, he has huge raw potential and is running out of contract. Surprised the direction is Italy, not Germany. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, NottmRAM said: It's what Rooney's reaction will be that worries me. You can only push a person so far. Me too. Wayne has been amazing but our sqaud is being ripped apart for peanuts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Gutted. Top player Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24Charlie Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Glad he’s going he’s shiite anyway. SFox1993 and Boycie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Not sure how the admins are ducking him over on Festy. They rejected offers in Jan and he’s leaving at the of the season on a pre contract, as we can’t offer him anything because the EFL won’t let us renew his contract. Unless I’ve got this wrong. There’s not really much they can do. We should be at a point where preferred bidders are aligned with the club. We’ve been told there are the binnies prepared to deal with everything as well as offering the full asking price. The longer the administrators sit on their hands we are all exposed to being ripped apart. Get the Binnie brothers deal done, get this ******** claim business in front of the courts and get the embargo lifted. Allowing us to get contracts agreed and signed before we’ve nothing left but Rammie r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, 24Charlie said: Glad he’s going he’s shiite anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyoj Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Cant take no more, every day been kicked from somewhere or some one, not fair on family me been pissed off all time. At next 3 home games not listening to nothing in between but I think that could be it anyway. Football has died for me r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, NottmRAM said: It's what Rooney's reaction will be that worries me. You can only push a person so far. I said it. Rooney walking will be exactly what the administrators (Mel) want. This is probably punishment for Rooney calling the administrators the other day. As soon as Rooney walks the admins save a big amount per month. Edited February 4, 2022 by MackworthRamIsGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I’m half expecting Olympiacos to come sniffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: If his contract is up what can they do? They could've done more to get us in a position where we could renew contracts, sign players etc. by naming a preferred bidder, securing further funding, actually dealing with the issues at hand instead of kicking the can down the road, and expecting the new owner to take on the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Not sure why everyone's going mad at this. Surely no-one expected him to stay beyond this summer, when we're likely to be in L1? Is he not OOC in the summer? The key was keeping him for the rest of this season in our survival bid, but even if that was successful I expected him to reject a new contract while his stock is high and go somewhere better and earn more than we could offer. Crewton, Ramarena, 24Charlie and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Lawrence out of contract he can do the same as others can no surprise really. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodypecker Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) rynny - - I thought that the EFL blocked Q from naming a preferred bidder (more than once) because of the issue of the parasite 'debts'? If a wise one here who is more statto/finance clever and analytical (such as 'Ghost of Clough', Alf etc), it would be instructive for them to be able to tabulate these stress sales and squad obstacles. I'm thinking of the loss of Gordon, Williams, Plange, Festy, Kellyman, Ebosele and the contract players lost (Jags, the summer departures) or not signed because of embargos / EFL tactics - to measure the potential losses such as future player values etc. We could put documents out and see if there are legal grounds against the parasites and EFL. Of course, not forgetting to add in the points we would have won with better players we have had to lose - plus the Championship vs. League One revenues disparity in the event of relegation. That would all have far more substance and measurability than the parasite claims! C O Y R Edited February 4, 2022 by Woodypecker r_wilcockson and Crewton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Festy is but the first and hardly unexpected. He’s, quite rightly and understandably, looking after himself and doing his best by us along the way - making sure he has a contract when his current one runs out but staying with us for the rest of the season. Good for him but galling for us. There will be others. The fault lies with boro and wycombe and the efl for making it impossible to name a preferred bidder, for their spurious, anti-football claims and their vindictive vendetta. Without them we would be in a much better place and could have offered festy and others contracts. Doubt he would have taken us up but you never know. At least we could have asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 The simple effect of not being in a position to offer contracts... and still Wycombe/Boro are not happy. I'm surprised at this one - Festy should wait until the end of the season, not under contract, he will have a number of offers on the table. Here, he's probably going to the first club to offer him anything. Probably give him 5-10k a week, and when he is probably on 1k currently, the lure of the money comes to you. I bet he hasn't even approached Rooney or Rosenior for advice as well. He'll have an agent telling him to go, because of the £££. It all stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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