Sparkle Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Yes. Transfer windows are closed in both countries. It will be a pre contract agreement I assume Caerphilly Ram and duncanjwitham 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) never ending nightmare continues ... gutted in him leaving Edited February 4, 2022 by OUTSIDER Jortat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Do we have him until the end of the season? Yep we should - if we make it that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Shame but as soon as Mel Morris put Derby in admin, it’s going to happen or at least we are at risk. Plus point is he’s not going to Forest. As long as there is a club next year I will be happy. If we have a club next year we can just start again and sort a new team. Even if liquidated, we will just start again. The team will look very different at the start of next year regardless because of player contracts etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, IslandExile said: What's the Watford link? Same owners? Effectively. Technically, one's owned by the dad and one's owned by the son, but to say there's been a few transfers between the two would be an understatement. I looked at Transfermarkt, and they list 61 transfers between Watford and Udinese since 2012. Some of those will be the same deal twice (loaned out, and then returning from loan, for example), but even if you only count half of those, that's an awful lot of transfers between two clubs. So, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Festy joins Udinese, but then winds up at Watford soon after, so that Watford doesn't have to pay the compensation they would need to pay Derby if it was a straight move between two English clubs. RoyMac5, IslandExile, r_wilcockson and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 £360k plus 1.25% of all future transfer fees. £180k on top of that goes to Bray Wanderers IslandExile and cosmic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Festy going, will provoke an angry response, I've not heard one bad thing about the kid, everybody likes him. Bald Eagle's Barmy Army and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JfR said: Effectively. Technically, one's owned by the dad and one's owned by the son, but to say there's been a few transfers between the two would be an understatement. I looked at Transfermarkt, and they list 61 transfers between Watford and Udinese since 2012. Some of those will be the same deal twice (loaned out, and then returning from loan, for example), but even if you only count half of those, that's an awful lot of transfers between two clubs. So, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Festy joins Udinese, but then winds up at Watford soon after, so that Watford doesn't have to pay the compensation they would need to pay Derby if it was a straight move between two English clubs. Another way of legally bending the rules, if only Mel was clever enough to have done likewise instead of spunking all those millions up the wall for………. duck all but trouble and potential liquidation. Edited February 4, 2022 by Ted McMinn Football Genius Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 He's too good for the Ilkeston Sunday Morning Pub League Division Two anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Disappointed that Festy would go along with this sham transfer. If Watford want him they should pay us for him. Football is ducking broken. We're the bad guys though, don't forget. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: £360k plus 1.25% of all future transfer fees. £180k on top of that goes to Bray Wanderers That's standard compensation isn't it for under 24's that have been developed? so is that still applicable even though it is outside the same FA? So pre contract there is same as compensation if he'd just signed for Watford on July 1st? Edited February 4, 2022 by Rich84 Spelling RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Oh wonderful. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phuket Ram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Even if liquidated, we will just start again. This! Even if liquidated, we’d have the highest attendance in the Derby South division (or where ever). 30,000 against Mickleover Sports - now that would be a spectacle!! r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ramitupper said: This! Even if liquidated, we’d have the highest attendance in the Derby South division (or where ever). 30,000 against Mickleover Sports - now that would be a spectacle!! That’s true... and we can sing we only hate Spondon at the Sports faithful. Phuket Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Everybody is jumping ship - says everything you need to know about our club right now. How can you carry on working with this mess. My optimism is dwindling by the day and I can see that tone with a lot of supporters this week. EFL = Every - F---er Leaves Sufferingfool and I am Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ramitupper said: This! Even if liquidated, we’d have the highest attendance in the Derby South division (or where ever). 30,000 against Mickleover Sports - now that would be a spectacle!! It would because we would be playing on a recreation ground, not at Pride Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Ted McMinn Football Genius said: If I was Rooney I’d duck this club of ours right off, effective immediately. He is being cheated of the opportunity to compete. He is doing everything he can to save our club whilst all those “running the club” are ducking him over behind his back. Not sure how the admins are ducking him over on Festy. They rejected offers in Jan and he’s leaving at the of the season on a pre contract, as we can’t offer him anything because the EFL won’t let us renew his contract. Unless I’ve got this wrong. There’s not really much they can do. Crewton and GenBr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Running out of positives now Even if we have a club left after all this...it will be in ruins. Everything good about it will be gone or going Even the likes of Rooney who want to see us through the mess will come to a point where they can't tumble down any lower and sacrifice their opportunities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Gutted to lose him for nowt that’s the absolute devastating part of this. But it’s a fantastic opportunity for one of our brightest prospects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Are the administrators actively trying to shut us down now? What possible financial advantage is there in this to the club? Ram1988, Miggins and cosmic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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