Comrade 86 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Crewton said: Seems that some folk have forgotten about the embargo restrictions that we've been operating under : squad size, wage size contract length, fees allowed (none), loan deals no longer than 1/2 season when most clubs (and the players themselves) want their kids to have a full year out and most don't want them to go to relegation certainties - and it comes across like they're just doubling down on their opinion of Rooney. It feels quite disingenuous. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Wazza acolyte, but I agree with every word of this. I'd also venture that since there's no likelihood of a new manager coming in, unless of course he decides to walk, that some on here really need to park the relentless sniping and just get behind him and the players. Deriding him for not bringing in Everton and Manure starlets is some of the most one-eyed nonsense I've read on this forum. Let's assess his ability to sign players based on his rep when the EFL actually allow us to eh, because last time I checked, there were none of the United's top young talents on the free agents list. Nor will there ever be. Gringo, Crewton, Miggins and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, CBRammette said: If its the only offer? With Rush or no Derby? Well, then we wont have a choice of course. But I wont like it. Kathcairns and CBRammette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Don't get me wrong, I'm no Wazza acolyte, but I agree with every word of this. I'd also venture that since there's no likelihood of a new manager coming in, unless of course he decides to walk, that some on here really need to park the relentless sniping and just get behind him and the players. Deriding him for not bringing in Everton and Manure starlets is some of the most one-eyed nonsense I've read on this forum. Let's assess his ability to sign players based on his rep when the EFL actually allow us to eh, because last time I checked, there were none of the United's top young talents on the free agents list. Nor will there ever be. At the risk of log-rolling, I agree ? Whenever a non-Derby supporting friend or acquaintance asks me how Rooney is doing, I generally say "OK, reasonably well considering what he's having to deal with" and that about sums it up for me. Not badly enough to suggest that "any other manager would be 20 points ahead" or similar. Kathcairns, Comrade 86, lrm14 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 Do we want seasoned pro’s coming in just for 1/2 a season then go on relegation? Or our own youngsters committing their best to the club with an eye on a spot in league 1 next year? Only Wayne will know if they want to stay around next season when an extension to a contract can be made, but a guess a new owner needs to be found in the meantime. Itll be interesting to see which ex team mates of Wayne may have contracts terminated by mutual agreement at their clubs and don’t go anywhere in the window. That’s our only chance of getting help after the windows shut. atherstoneram, Kathcairns and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Boycie said: Do we want seasoned pro’s coming in just for 1/2 a season then go on relegation? Or our own youngsters committing their best to the club with an eye on a spot in league 1 next year? Only Wayne will know if they want to stay around next season when an extension to a contract can be made, but a guess a new owner needs to be found in the meantime. Itll be interesting to see which ex team mates of Wayne may have contracts terminated by mutual agreement at their clubs and don’t go anywhere in the window. That’s our only chance of getting help after the windows shut. What's Andre Wisdom doing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Crewton said: At the risk of log-rolling, I agree ? Whenever a non-Derby supporting friend or acquaintance asks me how Rooney is doing, I generally say "OK, reasonably well considering what he's having to deal with" and that about sums it up for me. Not badly enough to suggest that "any other manager would be 20 points ahead" or similar. I certainly am not in the camp of "any other manager would be 20 points ahead" ,it is what it is but for some to imply Rooney is doing a brilliant job under the circumstances and is improving as he goes along, anybody in a job 12 months should be better than when they started. i just think he is in the wrong job at the wrong time as a rookie manager. Jourdan and kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: What's Andre Wisdom doing now? Same as Anya I imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Just now, Grumpy Git said: Same as Anya I imagine? I think he was injured whilst training with us at the start of the season (with no ongoing contract)...I seem to recall it was his shoulder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Anyone think the announcement might be made before the game tomorrow ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: Anyone think the announcement might be made before the game tomorrow ?? Yes, called off 55 mins before KO due to covid, (or snow). David Graham Brown, Jimbo Ram and CornwallRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: I certainly am not in the camp of "any other manager would be 20 points ahead" ,it is what it is but for some to imply Rooney is doing a brilliant job under the circumstances and is improving as he goes along, anybody in a job 12 months should be better than when they started. i just think he is in the wrong job at the wrong time as a rookie manager. Agree. Be interesting to see what the new owners will do. They might have a new manager in mind ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Anyone think the announcement might be made before the game tomorrow ?? On pitch signing a la Clough and Taylor 1973. 10 more years of glory incoming.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: What's Andre Wisdom doing now? Trying to recover his car from a bog !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: What's Andre Wisdom doing now? Not sure, he’s one I wouldn’t mind seeing us re-sign if the rules allow it in January. I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but he can do a job at the back, covers a couple of positions, is a unit physically and would allow for some continuity in the squad for if/when we head to league 1. Plus he’d lower the average age of our back line too ? DCFC1388 and Steve How Hard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 hours ago, PistoldPete said: What's Andre Wisdom doing now? From the DET "Andre Wisdom, defender Wisdom had been training with the club in the pre-season to keep his fitness sharp but he sustained a groin injury part way through and has seldom been seen since, at Derby or elsewhere. At 28, he is in his peak years as an athlete and it would be unfair to speculate on why he is still without a club." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Not sure, he’s one I wouldn’t mind seeing us re-sign if the rules allow it in January. I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but he can do a job at the back, covers a couple of positions, is a unit physically and would allow for some continuity in the squad for if/when we head to league 1. Plus he’d lower the average age of our back line too ? Might be an option if we cannot renew Jags. But it’s just an example.. there’s a few out of contract already and maybe a few more in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Might be an option if we cannot renew Jags. But it’s just an example.. there’s a few out of contract already and maybe a few more in January. Depends on what sort of a wage bill the administrators have in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share Posted December 26, 2021 2 hours ago, PistoldPete said: What's Andre Wisdom doing now? Was training with the squad, I’d assume back in the shop window very soon. Mind you, as a free agent he could have gone anywhere anytime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Are we renting him space in the treatment room? Budge over George, you've had 8 years in there..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: From the DET "Andre Wisdom, defender Wisdom had been training with the club in the pre-season to keep his fitness sharp but he sustained a groin injury part way through and has seldom been seen since, at Derby or elsewhere. At 28, he is in his peak years as an athlete and it would be unfair to speculate on why he is still without a club." Perhaps he is learning about how to head a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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