Stockyram92 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, Foreveram said: It would have made a big difference to last season’s total But its not last season anymore, that's done with, for the club to move forward in terms on takeovers and stuff this needs to end, then no point dragging it our with more appeals etc Ramarena and Ellafella 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Just now, Stockyram92 said: But its not last season anymore, that's done with, for the club to move forward in terms on takeovers and stuff this needs to end, then no point dragging it our with more appeals etc It's not going to end while we have a points suspension owing to the 'unpaid wages' charge anyway. That doesn't end until June (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stockyram92 said: Just asking, would you really want then to appeal over a 3 point penalty? Is it worth it? In sure most would happily just take it and move on and put an end to it all, we saw against Peterborough how 3 pomts can easily be won/lost.. its not a big deal A difficult decision without knowing the outcome of recent talks with the EFL. You say 3 points is nothing, but at the end of last season an extra 3 points were worth millions. Could be the difference between the play offs or not . We all want an end to the current situation, but it has to be fair to both sides. Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 points wouldn't surprise me . Think Gibson started moaning in 18/19 so perhaps for that season as they may have brought something to our attention. Prior to that they seemed happy enough, so we would appeal and that would make them look a bit silly as we would have a great case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockyram92 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: A difficult decision without knowing the outcome of recent talks with the EFL. You say 3 points is nothing, but at the end of last season an extra 3 points were worth millions. Could be the difference between the play offs or not . We all want an end to the current situation, but it has to be fair to both sides. I agree with what you're saying, you're right However my view is that this season everyone would be happy with survival, and a 3 point penalty is one that which in theory can be easily overturned We threw 3 points down the drain against Peterborough, picked up 3 against Hull and it was forgotten about I think if we were to be deducted 3 points Tuesday and then get a win on Saturday most people would be happy with that if it means the club is in a position to properly strengthen the squad instead of relying on just the 23 players, and also sort out other off field issues, I see your point I just think 3 points is a small price to pay to get the club moving forward again and I have confidence from what I've seen so far that we could overturn it, but thats just my view hintonsboots, LeedsCityRam, Rampage and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ellafella said: I heard from a reasonably reliable source yesterday that we have an incoming 3 point penalty. Tell the EFL we gave ourselves that at Posh. Mick Brolly, Rammeister, Premier ram and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: A difficult decision without knowing the outcome of recent talks with the EFL. You say 3 points is nothing, but at the end of last season an extra 3 points were worth millions. Could be the difference between the play offs or not . We all want an end to the current situation, but it has to be fair to both sides. See your point but any appeal then delays the takeover. Completing that will be the priority for Mel & that won't be possible whilst the scale of potential points deductions are unknown & the club can't sign players freely. Given how long its dragged on & the indirect punishment we've already suffered, 3 points seems a price we could stomach to exit this twilight zone. norwichram, Miggins, Rampage and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 What are we guilty of? RoyMac5 and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 If we get a 3 point penalty we’d still be above Forest, so not all bad. Would hope after all this though we should be punishment free. The recent embargoes have been enough of a punishment for any problem with our accounts. Rammy03 and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: What are we guilty of? Nothing Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 52 minutes ago, Stockyram92 said: Just asking, would you really want then to appeal over a 3 point penalty? Is it worth it? In sure most would happily just take it and move on and put an end to it all, we saw against Peterborough how 3 pomts can easily be won/lost.. its not a big deal It is if we're 3 points above the relegation places at the end of the season without it Rampage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Curtains said: After the game yesterday Rooney was talking to the likes of Steve Nicholson a Chris Cole for absolutely ages around 1730 time . All looked a bit secretive to me. They said on Radio Derby about 17.45 that Coles had just done a double-shift of interviews with Rooney - one about the Boro game, and then a preview for Sheffield Utd to be broadcast later. Owen87ITK and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockyram92 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: It is if we're 3 points above the relegation places at the end of the season without it But were 4 games in, a 3 point penalty would still see us above the bottom 3, with 42 games to play, if we were to go down from that situation you can't blame a points penalty, they would have had more than enough games to do something about it, it would come down to us not being good enough AbuDerbyDave, Mihangel and Rampage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 4 hours ago, RamontheMoor said: I've just read something along those lines on Twitter, let's see what happens on Tuesday. Can't see the embargo being lifted immediately unless EFL have already had sight of the accounts and have signed them off as ok. Time will tell...... They have already agreed with us that if s certain change of approach is made then they will be acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, roboto said: If we get a 3 point penalty we’d still be above Forest, so not all bad. Would hope after all this though we should be punishment free. The recent embargoes have been enough of a punishment for any problem with our accounts. I watched yesterday's highlights of the Forest game. They were woeful. Not a shot on goal. So .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: What are we guilty of? Leger de main Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Stockyram92 said: But were 4 games in, a 3 point penalty would still see us above the bottom 3, with 42 games to play, if we were to go down from that situation you can't blame a points penalty, they would have had more than enough games to do something about it, it would come down to us not being good enough I agree with that I'm just reading some of the very casual comments on here about a 3 point deduction being OK but there's a huge caveat about it being OK likewise. If we finish more than 3 points above the relegation places at the end of the season then yes I'd grab your hand off but you tell me if that's a certainty or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Leger de main Slight of hand? No, just accountants doing there job. Edited August 22, 2021 by The Scarlet Pimpernel jono and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: I agree with that I'm just reading some of the very casual comments on here about a 3 point deduction being OK but there's a huge caveat about it being OK likewise. If we finish more than 3 points above the relegation places at the end of the season then yes I'd grab your hand off but you tell me if that's a certainty or not. Sometimes, the more you drag something out, the more painful it becomes. There is an argument that you just stand there and take it, regardless of the injustice you perceive, just to make it all go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Slight of hand? No, just accountants doing there job. That's what an accountant's job is The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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