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48 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said:

I’m not being funny but what’s the point in coming on here weekly, or even multiple times a days for some, just to bash Warne and his tactics. 
 

He will deploy whichever formation and tactics he sees fit to get the best result in the game with the players he’s got available. 
 

As much as some would like him to get sacked, he isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, so moaning constantly really is pointless. It’s a waste of your time and energy and tiresome and tedious for everyone having to read it. 
 

 

Not everyone is going to be happy and positive all the time. This is surely a forum for opinions of all sorts, positive and negative, and posters are entitled to their view regardless of if the majority agree. If you find the negative posts tedious just scroll on past.

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13 minutes ago, Papahet said:

39% possession was it yesterday?  29% the week previously at home to Boro...

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One was a narrow win and one was a narrow loss , possession stats mean absolutely bugger all and aimless possession for the sake of it is as boring as hell , still it’s the stuff that keeps the Gary Neville’s of this world in beer money and turns football programs on sky into 4 hour marathon s so not all bad 🤷🏻‍♂️

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4 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

And if we’d been willing/able to spend more in the window, this season would be about competing for top 6   

Really? Top 6? Interested in much you think would we need to spend and who would you have signed for that to be a possibility.

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20 minutes ago, BuckoBeast said:

I agree that staying up is the priority and that it’s not always going to be pleasing football on the eye. So do you think the team will evolve under PW and he will get the recruitment side of things right, and eventually we will play better football and start challenging at the top of the division under him? 

I don't see why not. 

Money will be the key to success however - unless we are willing to wait for a crop of youngsters to all progress from the academy at a similar time, or rely on picking up unknown bargains in the transfer market.  Quality generally costs a lot and as a club, we aren't in the position to spend a good percentage of our budget on a couple of star players yet. 

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53 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

This is surely a forum for opinions of all sorts, positive and negative, and posters are entitled to their view regardless of if the majority agree.

Apart from @EnigmaRam it would seem.

We hear this school of thought expressed multiple times a day, every day, but surely if you expect others to indulge, or at least ignore what they consider to be controversial or opposing opinions, the best way to illustrate that point would be to do likewise yourself? 

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1 hour ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Not everyone is going to be happy and positive all the time. This is surely a forum for opinions of all sorts, positive and negative, and posters are entitled to their view regardless of if the majority agree. If you find the negative posts tedious just scroll on past.

I always thought the reason a forum exists is to provoke debate and engage the opinion of others.

Advocating ignoring posts of a certain nature seems to be the antithesis of this and it seems that the underlying cause is that the continual threads being posted by certain people are totally disenfranchising the remainder of the forum to even want to try and engage with the content. 

That's not good. 

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On 24/08/2024 at 21:14, BuckoBeast said:

Could you see PW leading us into the premier league. I’m not a PW hater, he has his strengths as does every other manager, but I don’t think a possession based attacking side we are going to be under him

Certainly couldn't see Warney leading DCFC into the PL, but that's not really a serious consideration at present. His task is to avoid relegation this season. In 5 years or so, the club may have a different ownership/management and a few solid championship seasons under it's belt, it might be a time to talk about DCFC and the PL in the same conversation. 

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9 minutes ago, europia said:

Certainly couldn't see Warney leading DCFC into the PL, but that's not really a serious consideration at present. His task is to avoid relegation this season. In 5 years or so, the club may have a different ownership/management and a few solid championship seasons under it's belt, it might be a time to talk about DCFC and the PL in the same conversation. 

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On 25/08/2024 at 02:14, BuckoBeast said:

When we appointed Warne it was because he was hailed as a promotion from LG 1 manager. I get that. He’s achieved it. Now, I understand we’re still under financial constraints etc however, with his style of play how long do we stick with him. I’m not a Paul Warne out fan as it stands. I’m just thinking he will never change his style. We’re not ever going to be an attacking possession based side under him. No matter how much time we give him that (IMO) will never change. I absolutely loved the Mclaren days of Martin Ward Russell etc. Let’s say we survive in the championship this season. What is the plan for the following season. Where and when is the progression. Our fans want to see good football. What’s our perspective and plan for say the next few seasons if we become an established championship side. Could you see PW leading us into the premier league. I’m not a PW hater, he has his strengths as does every other manager, but I don’t think a possession based attacking side we are going to be under him

More than three games I'd hope.

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8 hours ago, Ambitious said:

That’s just wildly incorrect, he’s improved a lot of our players and has a history of doing so. 

David McGoldrick is a great example: scored 21 in 33 games under Paul Warne, including 10 in his last 14. He dropped a level and managed 12 all season. Nelson and Mendez-Laing playing the best football in their career under him. Improving Max Bird to the point he wasn’t just a passive, tidy, midfielder. 

Nyambe, Cashin, Wilson, Adams, Smith, Wildsmith, Roberts, Forsyth, Gayle.. and the last one I’ll throw at you: Forsyth. I thought he was done in the last Championship season, even though he’s struggled with fitness, he’s looked excellent when he’s been called upon under Warne. 

But apart from all them? Exactly. Nothing.

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3 hours ago, europia said:

Certainly couldn't see Warney leading DCFC into the PL, but that's not really a serious consideration at present. His task is to avoid relegation this season. In 5 years or so, the club may have a different ownership/management and a few solid championship seasons under it's belt, it might be a time to talk about DCFC and the PL in the same conversation. 

Agree with this, the work off the field is far more important than on it for our long term aims. The progression of the academy, the infrastructure and the culture of the club.

We need to recruit smarter, we need a revenue stream via intangible assets and we need to develop players. 

We are a bottom six club by almost every metric at this level, the goal can only be to stay up.

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Warne has been labelled a L1 specialist but I think its fair to say the jury is out regarding his abilities in the Championship

Football is ruthless and I personally think we must not be involved in a relegation scrap

We might not have the money and resources etc etc but regardless of that the aim has to be to not get relegated as we'd be back to square one 

Whether it's Warne or not we need a manager to get the best out of what we have and to be able to compete at this level

Can see the benefit of Warne's work with our set pieces but we must improve with keeping the ball better and being braver individually and as a team

To be fair to Warne he said the right things after the game regarding how he evaluated our game against Watford but we must improve certain aspects of our game

Although some don't see the benefits of possession I still believe you have more chance of winning games if you actually have the ball but not sure Warne sees it as a problem 

Time will tell this season but if we are struggling come Christmas it has to be looked at surely by DC as I think with good game plans and management we should be able to stay up in this division, relegation is not an option 

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16 hours ago, KBB said:

Really? Top 6? Interested in much you think would we need to spend and who would you have signed for that to be a possibility.

Yes I don’t buy into this oil tanker turnaround scenario. As things look I think we might finish something like 15th this season (a wild guess). If we’d used more of our FFp headroom and if the squad performed to potential, then top 6 would be feasible. 

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11 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Maybe the worst take ever on a football forum

 

Can i interest you in this one?

18 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

Yes I don’t buy into this oil tanker turnaround scenario. As things look I think we might finish something like 15th this season (a wild guess). If we’d used more of our FFp headroom and if the squad performed to potential, then top 6 would be feasible. 

 

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