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Five at the back doesn’t really work for us. I actually thought Bradley was the weakest of the back three and was amazed he got MOM.

 He was okay for sure but Nelson and Cashin were solid.

Nyambe and Elder are not attackers, they’re defensive fullbacks.

Shout out to Korey Smith and Paul Warne. Smith brought a degree of calm to the midfield and it was his raking pass that set up the goal.

 

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4 minutes ago, CapeTownRams said:

Glad for the win obviously.

But let’s not have the fluked result (cos that’s what it is and was) disguise a desperate performance created to a large extent by a woeful tactician of a manager. Don’t give me the line that it was PW’s sub of Sibs that got us the win. It was just luck, no more. Plus a large dose of desperation.

I can accept bad performances and understand the pressure on the players, particularly at home.

But our setup was appalling.
If we had gone attacking mode from the beginning (when Stevenage would realistically just be looking to get to HT at 0-0), scored two goals by H-T and then reverted to a back 5, then there would have been some logic to events. But PW’s talk about it being better to go for a win ( and risk losing) rather than draw is total BS. Talk is cheap but not matched by actions.

Stevenage deserved a draw. We got (very) lucky. Yes, we are where we are in the table and that’s good. But i am reminded of a tv interview with Matt Le Tiss who said that whilst Southgate was a nice guy he couldn’t help feeling that we would never win a tournament with him as manager and that he almost felt that with the players England have he( Le Tiss) could have managed them to a Euro final and WC semi. I feel the same about PW- it’s a ‘thanks Paul’ but no more. I have always been supportive of him but after today I seriously question his real credentials, yes, even acknowledging the current league position we find ourselves in.

Matt Le Tissier also said the war in Ukraine was being staged by actors, and he sounded as ridiculous then as you do now.

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Getting it wrong for 70 minutes but recognising that and changing it deserves some credit, but not getting it wrong in the first place would deserve far more. Warne learns but he learns slowly.

They key difference was having an actual RWB at RWB, before we changed there wasn't anyone aside from the 3CBs who looked comfortable in their role.

Bradley was excellent today against a team who never ran at him, and with a proper midfield infront of him.

That said I'd have been happy with a point today given the circumstances so I'm delighted we won 

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Just now, Anag Ram said:

Five at the back doesn’t really work for us. I actually thought Bradley was the weakest of the back three and was amazed he got MOM.

 He was okay for sure but Nelson and Cashin were solid.

Nyambe and Elder are not attackers, they’re defensive fullbacks.

Shout out to Korey Smith and Paul Warne. Smith brought a degree of calm to the midfield and it was his raking pass that set up the goal.

Worked extremely well today as we didn't concede.

Bradley a very well deserved MOTM, didn't put a foot wrong all game and won every single header. 

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1 minute ago, CapeTownRams said:

I agree with CR. Great to get the win. But don’t let a fluke of a win paper over the large cracks…

A Flukey win would be their keeper attempting a clearance that rebounds off a retreating Barkhuizen’s backside and into the net. A Flukey win would be the intake of breath from the South Stand prior to belting out a hymn about Mendez-Laing’s impressive physique sucking the ball into the goal, a Flukey win would have been them scoring an own goal.

We defended our goal, and changed from about 60 mins onwards to attack until we scored a winner. Smith played the pass to NML, Smith who was subbed on to change the shape of the side to free Max Bird in midfield and move Wilson to his natural rwb role. Sibley scored the goal having been brought on as one of the forward players in place of Barkhuizen.

It was a horrible game of football, and I agree Warne is limited tactically and perhaps has the wrong mindset towards approaching home games in which we might expect to be the dominant side, but to call the win today luck is genuinely baffling in my opinion. 

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2 minutes ago, Scott129 said:

There has to come up a point where we fluke so many wins, that it can no longer be called a fluke.

Perhaps we're just an efficient, effective, but not particularly eye-catching side? 🤷‍♂️

Get out this league by any means!

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Don’t understand why people are saying Warne got it wrong. 
 
Yes I was moaning at half time. But unfortunately for Warne, Stevenage was always going to be tight. 
 
If Sibley would’ve started he’d have done nothing for 60 mins before being hauled off. 
 
Warne got it spot on today especially when you consider that our forward options are depleted. 
 
Happy to hear we’re in for Gayle, let’s hope the EFL aren’t bum holes and let us sign a 34 year old.

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2 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

Five at the back doesn’t really work for us. I actually thought Bradley was the weakest of the back three and was amazed he got MOM.

 He was okay for sure but Nelson and Cashin were solid.

Nyambe and Elder are not attackers, they’re defensive fullbacks.

Shout out to Korey Smith and Paul Warne. Smith brought a degree of calm to the midfield and it was his raking pass that set up the goal.

 

What are you shouting out Warne for? Setting us up in a formation that, as you say, doesn't work for us?

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17 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

10 points ahead of that Peterborough super team who ‘looked levels above us’ recently.

Is Paul Warne actually overachieving?

Well said! That's how quickly it can change. A few weeks ago it was Super Posh ..doom and gloom..no chance of finishing above them! We were only looking at the playoffs (apparently)..now a few short weeks later the Rams are 10 points clear..But still loads of times for a complete turnaround..that's football.

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1 minute ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

A Flukey win would be their keeper attempting a clearance that rebounds off a retreating Barkhuizen’s backside and into the net. A Flukey win would be the intake of breath from the South Stand prior to belting out a hymn about Mendez-Laing’s impressive physique sucking the ball into the goal, a Flukey win would have been them scoring an own goal.

We defended our goal, and changed from about 60 mins onwards to attack until we scored a winner. Smith played the pass to NML, Smith who was subbed on to change the shape of the side to free Max Bird in midfield and move Wilson to his natural rwb role. Sibley scored the goal having been brought on as one of the forward players in place of Barkhuizen.

It was a horrible game of football, and I agree Warne is limited tactically and perhaps has the wrong mindset towards approaching home games in which we might expect to be the dominant side, but to call the win today luck is genuinely baffling in my opinion. 

Deep breaths @Caerphilly Ram…. That’s what I take reading some posts! 
….. And relax 

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Just now, Caerphilly Ram said:

A Flukey win would be their keeper attempting a clearance that rebounds off a retreating Barkhuizen’s backside and into the net. A Flukey win would be the intake of breath from the South Stand prior to belting out a hymn about Mendez-Laing’s impressive physique sucking the ball into the goal, a Flukey win would have been them scoring an own goal.

We defended our goal, and changed from about 60 mins onwards to attack until we scored a winner. Smith played the pass to NML, Smith who was subbed on to change the shape of the side to free Max Bird in midfield and move Wilson to his natural rwb role. Sibley scored the goal having been brought on as one of the forward players in place of Barkhuizen.

It was a horrible game of football, and I agree Warne is limited tactically and perhaps has the wrong mindset towards approaching home games in which we might expect to be the dominant side, but to call the win today luck is genuinely baffling in my opinion. 

My uncle once lost 70k on an accumulator when a Philips shot went in off Duberrys arse in a Sunderland -Chelsea match.  Just reminded me 😂

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3 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I'm as much of a Warne skeptic as anyone, but have a day off my friend!

I played Sunday football and a manager would play a team that matched or bettered the opposition, I just don't get his angst.

But then it was only Sunday football Cracking Up Lol GIF by Rodney Dangerfield

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