ram59 Posted Sunday at 22:05 Share Posted Sunday at 22:05 4 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: This is some strange new meaning of the term "good news" of which I was not previously aware. For me that's abject failure. How would you describe relegation back to Lg1 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted Monday at 01:55 Share Posted Monday at 01:55 3 hours ago, ram59 said: How would you describe relegation back to Lg1 then? Relegation next season would be a disaster of staggering proportions. I am optimistic for the new season (it's the hope that kills you) and think anything below mid table would be disappointing. Patrick Rams and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted Monday at 05:42 Share Posted Monday at 05:42 (edited) 3 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Relegation next season would be a disaster of staggering proportions. I am optimistic for the new season (it's the hope that kills you) and think anything below mid table would be disappointing. We've currently lost Bird, Hourihane, Adams, Smith, Waghorn and possibly Sibley and Collins, and we've added Osborne. You seriously at this very moment would be disappointed at anything below mid table? I'm hoping for more than a relegation battle, but I think that we need more players before saying that we should finish above mid table. we've also lost Wildsmith and I've probably forgotten more Edited Monday at 05:50 by richinspain Added Wolfie, Comrade 86, Jourdan and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted Monday at 06:00 Share Posted Monday at 06:00 On 24/06/2024 at 23:20, EulogyForEvolution said: I was listening to the Rest is Football the other day and David Moyes and Alan Shearer were talking about being on the same managerial course a while ago. Moyes would have already been in management a decade at that point. There are lots of courses to do and managers don't have an awful lot of spare time. I think he was referring to the fact that Moyes had done the same course years earlier and gave him some advice on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted Monday at 06:17 Share Posted Monday at 06:17 8 hours ago, jono said: I predict 11th after a horrible start and a late run up the table. But I’m not a super computer. This might be why I don’t own a private island, or a football club. If you owned a football club, you probably couldn't afford a private island. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted Monday at 07:03 Share Posted Monday at 07:03 1 hour ago, richinspain said: We've currently lost Bird, Hourihane, Adams, Smith, Waghorn and possibly Sibley and Collins, and we've added Osborne. You seriously at this very moment would be disappointed at anything below mid table? I'm hoping for more than a relegation battle, but I think that we need more players before saying that we should finish above mid table. we've also lost Wildsmith and I've probably forgotten more I don't think he ever played for us 😁 richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenno Posted Monday at 07:08 Share Posted Monday at 07:08 Darren "Big Dave" Moore did though 😉 Ram-Alf and Reggie Greenwood 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted Monday at 17:13 Share Posted Monday at 17:13 11 hours ago, richinspain said: We've currently lost Bird, Hourihane, Adams, Smith, Waghorn and possibly Sibley and Collins, and we've added Osborne. You seriously at this very moment would be disappointed at anything below mid table? I'm hoping for more than a relegation battle, but I think that we need more players before saying that we should finish above mid table. we've also lost Wildsmith and I've probably forgotten more Yes we'll have more players. Hourihane, Smith, Waghorn and possibly Collins weren't good enough for this level. I don't have any doubts we'll bring in better players before the season starts. In football, as in life, you have to aim high. If you're satisfied with just finishing above the relegation places, you may very well end up in them. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted Monday at 17:21 Share Posted Monday at 17:21 The DET article mentions we will be looking at a new deal for Warne. Clowes values stability. Whatever you think of Warne, we are in very good hands with Clowes and his way of thinking. Pikeyram, Carnero, Carl Sagan and 2 others 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted Monday at 18:45 Share Posted Monday at 18:45 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: Yes we'll have more players. Hourihane, Smith, Waghorn and possibly Collins weren't good enough for this level. I don't have any doubts we'll bring in better players before the season starts. In football, as in life, you have to aim high. If you're satisfied with just finishing above the relegation places, you may very well end up in them. , I agree entirely in that you should always aim to win ALL of your games, and therefore finish champions, but realistically we are very unlikely to even be pushing for a top two spot. We will sign new players, and I would definitely expect them to be better than the ones that have left, but expecting top half even and being disappointed if we don't achieve it, at this point, does seem unrealistic to me. I'm not saying that I would be satisfied with finishing just above the relegation places, however that is the very, very minimum that I am hoping for. If we sign some top, top players however I probably will expect much higher 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted Monday at 19:05 Share Posted Monday at 19:05 Why are we still handing out deals for fun? He's got another 3 hasn't he? Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted Monday at 19:13 Share Posted Monday at 19:13 1 hour ago, inter politics said: The DET article mentions we will be looking at a new deal for Warne. Clowes values stability. Whatever you think of Warne, we are in very good hands with Clowes and his way of thinking. Seems weird to be giving him a new deal. Couple of years still running on the original deal, and whilst he's done his job so far, the main question marks have always been around his ability to keep us up or take us any further in the Championship. Feels hasty. jimtastic56 and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted Monday at 19:17 Share Posted Monday at 19:17 Somewhere in the multiverse of infinite possibilities there's a reality where Christiano Ronaldo has to play against 70s Leeds every match for all eternity. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted Monday at 19:21 Share Posted Monday at 19:21 I wonder if there's been another team sniffing and it'll be a pay increase to keep him. 4 promotions on his CV now, theres a lot worse managers out there who land good jobs. Interesting Clowes thinks he's 1/2 transfer windows away from really having his own team too so we're yet to see a proper Warne team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted Monday at 19:29 Share Posted Monday at 19:29 12 minutes ago, Papahet said: Why are we still handing out deals for fun? He's got another 3 hasn't he? I agree, albeit I thought he only had two years left? No question that Warne did a fantastic job last season and Clowes clearly loves working with him. Nevertheless, the financial package to bring him to the club was relatively substantial. He would’ve been the best paid manager in League One and probably one of the top paid managers in the EFL. When analysing the accounts and the unaccounted money, it did occur to me that part of that could well be the wages for the first-team staff. I would give him this season and then review for a new contract after the new year, we have to sustain our Championship status and whilst we have expectations that will be the case, it’s by no means a given. jimtastic56, Andicis and Hustler 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted Monday at 19:36 Share Posted Monday at 19:36 (edited) Anyone remember when Newcastle handed Pardew with a long contract after a purple patch? We would be foolish to give Warne a new deal now given his record in the Championship. Edited Monday at 19:37 by Bris Vegas jimtastic56, Carl Sagan, RoyMac5 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted Monday at 19:42 Share Posted Monday at 19:42 I understand Clowes' 'urge' for stability but the point is always - with the right manager. No point in comparing him to other Derby managers before he's even managed a single game for the Club at Championship level. I was hoping it was just 'verbal support' to kick off the season... jimtastic56 and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted Monday at 19:56 Share Posted Monday at 19:56 17 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: Relegation next season would be a disaster of staggering proportions. I am optimistic for the new season (it's the hope that kills you) and think anything below mid table would be disappointing. So you'd be disappointed if we finished 13th ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted Monday at 19:57 Share Posted Monday at 19:57 12 hours ago, Ram-Alf said: I don't think he ever played for us 😁 Nearly did Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted Monday at 20:02 Share Posted Monday at 20:02 3 minutes ago, Wignall12 said: Nearly did And Trevor Brooking in same deal Wignall12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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