Zag zig Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Reckon if we all pretend he’s good Rotherham might buy him back? Putting aside any debate about him being here, whilst he took Rotherham up 3 times, he took them down from the championship 3 times; being already in the championship I’d say they’ve more than tried that route. Don't think I’d be tempted if I was their owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 No Mendez-Laing zero invention. That was such a poor performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Putting aside any debate about him being here, whilst he took Rotherham up 3 times, he took them down from the championship 3 times; being already in the championship I’d say they’ve more than tried that route. Don't think I’d be tempted if I was their owner. Even if some miracle happens, and gets us promoted, he will get us relegated again next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I think it's fairly clear at this point that he just isn't the right person to lead us to where we need to be. Ipswich spent a bit longer in League One, but they built up with a good young manager and a good style of football and have adapted well to the league above. I have no data to back this up, but generally the pragmatic sides that get up don't seem to adapt as well. norwichram, Comrade 86, Wsm-ram and 9 others 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I did say a while back I'd give him until Christmas. Scarily we're nearly there. An inability to change tactics An inability to play to our strengths No trust in some of the youngsters Looking like he's losing (lost) some of the dressing room We're only as high up as we are due to the fact most other teams are absolute tripe. Not sure I want to wait until Christmas. RedSox, Wsm-ram, Mimester and 10 others 2 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazal77 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 He absolutely needs to go!! there’s green shoots every now and then but it’s not enough, the standards at the club should be higher than they are. performances like tonight are unacceptable and unfortunately far too regular. he’s had a year and the only thing he’s improved is how far we can kick the ball. Barney1991, Mimester, strawhillram and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, Andicis said: I think it's fairly clear at this point that he just isn't the right person to lead us to where we need to be. Ipswich spent a bit longer in League One, but they built up with a good young manager and a good style of football and have adapted well to the league above. I have no data to back this up, but generally the pragmatic sides that get up don't seem to adapt as well. The multi million pound American takeover that Ipswich had also helped. dantheram, HorsforthRam, Crewton and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, Andicis said: I think it's fairly clear at this point that he just isn't the right person to lead us to where we need to be. Ipswich spent a bit longer in League One, but they built up with a good young manager and a good style of football and have adapted well to the league above. I have no data to back this up, but generally the pragmatic sides that get up don't seem to adapt as well. It's a good point - what the f*** would actually happen if this squad got promoted..... Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, oodledoodle said: The multi million pound American takeover that Ipswich had also helped. Of course it did, the point is that taking a bit longer and building to a more progressive style of play can be more beneficial in the long run than limping up playing pragmatic football that doesn't work in the league above. Barney1991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Andicis said: Of course it did, the point is that taking a bit longer and building to a more progressive style of play can be more beneficial in the long run than limping up playing pragmatic football that doesn't work in the league above. I don't disagree, I just think Ipswich are a bad example of that. They bought in 15 new players, spent millions in the window, along with some really shrewd loans from top premier league sides. They also shipped out a load of dead wood from previous managers. 21 players in total left the club. If we're following the Ipswich model, we need to sack Warne, get rid of almost the entire squad, spend millions on incoming players, get a young manager in his first job from a top side, and gamble massively that it all pays off. They way they went up was very, very Mel Morris-like, they just had the good fortune that it worked. Sweetness34, Kathcairns, Crewton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 BucksRam, MackworthRamIsGod and Jram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 This entire thread makes me laugh out loud 😂 Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, oodledoodle said: If we're following the Ipswich model, we need to sack Warne, get rid of almost the entire squad, spend millions on incoming players, get a young manager in his first job from a top side, and gamble massively that it all pays off. They way they went up was very, very Mel Morris-like, they just had the good fortune that it worked. Not saying I want us to adopt that model but it wasn't good fortune. They just spent the money better: Mel wasted his. Barney1991 and Walkley Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 What a f****** surprise 🙄 Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andicis said: I think it's fairly clear at this point that he just isn't the right person to lead us to where we need to be. Ipswich spent a bit longer in League One, but they built up with a good young manager and a good style of football and have adapted well to the league above. I have no data to back this up, but generally the pragmatic sides that get up don't seem to adapt as well. Ipswich were down in this league for 4 seasons. The first 3 seasons were spent chopping and changing managers finishing outside the playoffs in every single one. Kieran McKenna took them up in his first full season in charge. From what I hear from Ipswich fans is that everything changed when he was appointed. The football they were playing last season was amazing. I don't know too much about their playing squad but they've been able to continue their momentum with the step up to the championship. The fact they are joint top of that league is a phenomenal achievement. Edited November 15, 2023 by Rammy03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRBee Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, tomsdubs said: No Mendez-Laing zero invention. That was such a poor performance. Warnes tactics supress invention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggerB Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Once, just once I’d like to see Warne come out and be as absolutely furious as the fans are about the team turning in that sort of performance. The most we get is the odd throwaway remark directed at an individual. Oh for the days of Sir Alex Wsm-ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, DiggerB said: Once, just once I’d like to see Warne come out and be as absolutely furious as the fans are about the team turning in that sort of performance. The most we get is the odd throwaway remark directed at an individual. Oh for the days of Sir Alex On the assumption that you're referring to Alex Ferguson, he would never publicly criticise his team. RedSox, GB SPORTS and Crewton 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Nope. They've realised what they had. He's not changed any. We just got lucky with some of our play. We have won our last 3 home league games, scoring 9 and conceding 0. Assume they were all lucky? Tamworthram, CongletonRam, Crewton and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Can we leave his wife out of this please? angieram, Bazal77, Comrade 86 and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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