Gary Lineker

[1of4]

Great MOTD tonight, no commentary just crowd noise. Maybe we should also scrap the multi camera coverage and go with a single camera that tracks the flow of play. That will give us that actually being there match experience.  Why not go all in by sticking a microphone randomly somewhere in the ground so we can listen to someone moan about the ref or the failings of their star player not scoring an easy chance.

Pah, why would we want exprofessionals giving their opinions about a game of football. Especially when we all know more about the game than anyone who as played the game at a high level.

[Rev]

For all those saying how refreshing MOTD was tonight, I'd refer you to the Sky Sports YouTube channel.

You can watch highlights packaged in such way from 5.15pm every Saturday, free of charge.

[Ramarena]

39 minutes ago, Rev said:

For all those saying how refreshing MOTD was tonight, I'd refer you to the Sky Sports YouTube channel.

You can watch highlights packaged in such way from 5.15pm every Saturday, free of charge.

You’re heading in an interesting direction. Losing viewers is the start of a slippery slope.

The Premier League value their product very highly and any rights holder (like the BBC) that is seen to be devaluing that product will be dealt with sooner rather than later. There will be an expected level of delivery that will have been agreed as part of their rights package.

It’s not just the actual product, we’re at the clubs not talking to the BBC stage. If todays problems aren’t resolved quickly, there will be serious questioned asked by the league!

[Eddie]

On 10/03/2023 at 22:09, Grumpy Git said:

Meanwhile, water companies are free to pump raw $hit into the river.

 

There's a few on here guilty of similar.

[ariotofmyown]

I'd like to know exactly why people risk their lives to cross the channel on small boats ran by criminals.

I understand they might know some English and/or have family here. They are clearly poor and desperate, but it seems an almighty gamble to risk the crossing.

There is a good chance they passed through Germany on their way here. Why didn't they stay there like most of the rest of the refugees travelling through Europe? What made this small proportion continue onto our green and pleasant land?

Maybe we'll look back on these current glory days, when people actually wanted to come to the UK. Like in 30 years, where nearly everyone in the UK is over 70 and broke.

[Comrade 86]

6 hours ago, i-Ram said:

Missed the commentary a little, but I thought that highlights package on MOTD was all the better for the lack of guff from Lineker, Shearer, Murphy and Co.

I-Ram: My new 'improved' MOTD experience...

His Mrs: Standard...

Edited March 12, 2023 by 86 Hair Islands

[ilkleyram]

2 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

I-Ram: My new 'improved' MOTD experience...

His Mrs: Standard...

I didn’t know that rabbits were so sharp in the trouser department. Thanks @86 Hair Islands 

[Comrade 86]

2 minutes ago, ilkleyram said:

I didn’t know that rabbits were so sharp in the trouser department. Thanks @86 Hair Islands 

Very welcome Ilks my old mucker. Always best to know these things in advance ?

[i-Ram]

3 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

I-Ram: My new 'improved' MOTD experience...

His Mrs: Standard...

It’s a new day 86. Or are you still still enjoying your drink from yesterday?

[Comrade 86]

11 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

It’s a new day 86. Or are you still still enjoying your drink from yesterday?

No rest for the wicked sunshine. The Bolly ain't gonna drink itself, is it?

I missed MOTD though, as I blinked at the wrong time, so thanks for the review ?

[sage]

In 2016 we had an agreement with the EU that we could return asylum seekers/illegal immigrants back to one of the countries they had passed through.

We no longer have a return agreement.

 

 

 

 

Taking back control.

 

[RoyMac5]

 

[i-Ram]

18 minutes ago, sage said:

In 2016 we had an agreement with the EU that we could return asylum seekers/illegal immigrants back to one of the countries they had passed through.

We no longer have a return agreement.

We do however have a well funded, best in class, health service to be proud of. You can’t have everything Sage ?

[sage]

2 minutes ago, i-Ram said:

We do however have a well funded, best in class, health service to be proud of. You can’t have everything Sage ?

Ah I forgot about that £350m a day that meant no one had to wait 8 hours for an ambulance 

[GboroRam]

There's a lot of competing thoughts in this thread. 

Some people seem to be happy because they don't like Lineker, so less commentary from him is good. 

Some people don't want any commentary, so everyone walking out in sympathy is good. 

Some people question his moral position, which is a legitimate point, but doesn't change the argument about what is acceptable and what isn't. 

Some people are questioning whether a presenter should be impartial or not. I'd argue it isn't possible to be 100% impartial, in the same way that we can't have a conversation about covid, or Shamima Begum, or food bank sponsorship, without there being some politics involved. You can't talk about big stuff totally neutrally. 

My personal opinion is, as long as presenters don't talk about dehumanising people, as long as we're challenging authority and not challenging the rights of people to exist, I'm not against them having an opinion. 

Some of the conversations leave an unpleasant taste in my mouth, but I'm aware that it is legitimate to talk about these things. Sending asylum seekers to Rwanda seems inhuman to me, but there's a legitimate conversation to be had. If you're talking about torpedoing the boats in the channel, gtfo. 

And I'm not hypocritical about the problem on the British left regarding antisemitism. There's a problem in left wing politics with anti Jewish sentiment, but it's not possible to have a proper conversation about Israel without the mud being slung. Questioning the role of Israel in World Politics is acceptable. Denying Jewish people a right to exist, or indiscriminately demonising a whole group of people, gtfo. 

[Ram-Alf]

11 hours ago, Vimto Enjoyer said:

Are we pretending he wasn’t always outspoken about his political views? He was a top Socialist and an even better man. He marched alongside the miners, rallied against the National Front and consistently used his platform to call out right-wing b*******. The world could do with a few more Cloughies. 
 

*edit - And he’d have absolutely despised Darren f****** Grimes!
 

 

 

I had a lot of time for BC a fantastic manager and a good all round fella, You can't say Murdoch and Maxwell(well you can)should be off our planet...then take your 5 pieces of gold for writing for one of the latter's papers.

Hypocrisy is in all of us at some point in our lives, Show me someone who isn't and I'll say they're Fibbers ? 

[Tamworthram]

7 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

I'd like to know exactly why people risk their lives to cross the channel on small boats ran by criminals.

I understand they might know some English and/or have family here. They are clearly poor and desperate, but it seems an almighty gamble to risk the crossing.

There is a good chance they passed through Germany on their way here. Why didn't they stay there like most of the rest of the refugees travelling through Europe? What made this small proportion continue onto our green and pleasant land?

Maybe we'll look back on these current glory days, when people actually wanted to come to the UK. Like in 30 years, where nearly everyone in the UK is over 70 and broke.

I had exactly the same conversation with my wife yesterday.

It makes no sense at all. You have somehow managed to escape with your family from a truly desperate situation and find yourselves in a wealthy Western European country (France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium etc) so what do you do next? Pay a small fortune and risk the lives of your family to make a perilous sea crossing to another Western European country. 
 

 

[PistoldPete]

9 hours ago, Rev said:

For all those saying how refreshing MOTD was tonight, I'd refer you to the Sky Sports YouTube channel.

You can watch highlights packaged in such way from 5.15pm every Saturday, free of charge.

No adverts on the BBC though. Only thing I miss is the music. 

[ketteringram]

17 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

I had exactly the same conversation with my wife yesterday.

It makes no sense at all. You have somehow managed to escape with your family from a truly desperate situation and find yourselves in a wealthy Western European country (France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium etc) so what do you do next? Pay a small fortune and risk the lives of your family to make a perilous sea crossing to another Western European country. 
 

 

....where apparently, nothing works. 

[Ram-Alf]

8 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

I'd like to know exactly why people risk their lives to cross the channel on small boats ran by criminals.

I understand they might know some English and/or have family here. They are clearly poor and desperate, but it seems an almighty gamble to risk the crossing.

There is a good chance they passed through Germany on their way here. Why didn't they stay there like most of the rest of the refugees travelling through Europe? What made this small proportion continue onto our green and pleasant land?

Maybe we'll look back on these current glory days, when people actually wanted to come to the UK. Like in 30 years, where nearly everyone in the UK is over 70 and broke.

Maybe I can shed a little light on this.

Not all make it in a boat of their boarding, As when 3 miles out from France our boats are waiting to save/pick them up, Do they choose the UK or are they swept up into a lorry container and moved to a Country where the traffickers can then unload their paying customers, All monies paid before boarding said lorry, And some not all are forced at gunpoint into boats, 9 died in Bulgaria a few weeks ago.

Spain is the easiest route from Africa, Then Malta or swerve this Island and head to Italy, Movement from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Albania and Greece is a long trek for those who want a better life, Germany take/have more than most EU Countries, Research Sweden and refugees you may be surprised with what you read.

As for why people would risk their lives to get to the UK, A question I can only guess, Mobile phones will be used by those who are already here to tell family and friends what they can expect in the UK, A hotel room, Food and a little spending money, For some an opportunity to get finances an illegal way, There's a chance a slim chance they will be able to settle and start a new life. 

Is it all worth it...some think so.