IslandExile Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Is there any planned meetings between our owner, guardian and saviour with the supporters groups? If so, there are so many questions that I am sure many would like to ask, particularly about the plans for the future of the club. So, to get started, my questions would focus on the manager. Nope, I hope this doesn't become yet another Rosenior versus Warne thread; I would just like to better understand Clowes' thinking and whether promotion is a short term goal or the bigger picture involves restructuring of the entire football club, no matter how long that takes. So... Was it not possible to appoint Warne during the summer so that he could assemble the squad that he would have wanted? Did Warne assure him that he could work with the current squad or is he expecting a lot of trading during upcoming transfer windows? (And follow up: how frustrating would that be?). Does he and Warne put much emphasis on the Academy, including recruitment of young talent and Category 1 status? Was the aim promotion this season or, given Warne's 4 year contract, the bigger picture is the Derby County rebuild with promotion as and when it happens? Are targets - e.g. regarding league position, academy graduates breaking into the first team - being set? Onto more general things: over what timescales does he see himself as the owner? Having been reluctant in the first instance, would he be looking to sell? Soon? In the Championship? In the Premier League? Given Warne's title is Head Coach rather than Manager, will the club be appointing a Director of Football to oversee transfers, playing strategies etc? Curtains, alram, Papahet and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Is there any planned meetings between our owner, guardian and saviour with the supporters groups? If so, there are so many questions that I am sure many would like to ask, particularly about the plans for the future of the club. So, to get started, my questions would focus on the manager. Nope, I hope this doesn't become yet another Rosenior versus Warne thread; I would just like to better understand Clowes' thinking and whether promotion is a short term goal or the bigger picture involves restructuring of the entire football club, no matter how long that takes. So... Was it not possible to appoint Warne during the summer so that he could assemble the squad that he would have wanted? Did Warne assure him that he could work with the current squad or is he expecting a lot of trading during upcoming transfer windows? (And follow up: how frustrating would that be?). Does he and Warne put much emphasis on the Academy, including recruitment of young talent and Category 1 status? Was the aim promotion this season or, given Warne's 4 year contract, the bigger picture is the Derby County rebuild with promotion as and when it happens? Are targets - e.g. regarding league position, academy graduates breaking into the first team - being set? Onto more general things: over what timescales does he see himself as the owner? Having been reluctant in the first instance, would he be looking to sell? Soon? In the Championship? In the Premier League? Given Warne's title is Head Coach rather than Manager, will the club be appointing a Director of Football to oversee transfers, playing strategies etc? 1. We wouldn't have had time to approach a manager employed by another club and also get a squad together. Also he probably didn't know who he wanted at that stage. Topram, EssendonRam, Rammy03 and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1. Was it not possible to appoint Warne during the summer so that he could assemble the squad that he would have wanted? No 2.Did Warne assure him that he could work with the current squad or is he expecting a lot of trading during upcoming transfer windows? (And follow up: how frustrating would that be?). Yes, and second, 'a few new faces' 3. Does he and Warne put much emphasis on the Academy, including recruitment of young talent and Category 1 status? Yes 4. Was the aim promotion this season or, given Warne's 4 year contract, the bigger picture is the Derby County rebuild with promotion as and when it happens? Rebuild stability 5. Are targets - e.g. regarding league position, academy graduates breaking into the first team - being set? Yes 6.Onto more general things: over what timescales does he see himself as the owner? Having been reluctant in the first instance, would he be looking to sell? Soon? In the Championship? In the Premier League? Impossible to tell 7. Given Warne's title is Head Coach rather than Manager, will the club be appointing a Director of Football to oversee transfers, playing strategies etc? No. EssendonRam, RadioactiveWaste and strawhillram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Very pertinent questions that need answering IMO as it shouldn’t be a closed shop for the Charter Group meetings which involve certain groups only. I think the fans should be kept informed especially after what has happened regarding administration etc RoyMac5 and IslandExile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 If I was him I wouldn't even consider answering 6. So many variables a d would want to keep all options open. RadioactiveWaste, EssendonRam and strawhillram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, Curtains said: Very pertinent questions that need answering IMO as it shouldn’t be a closed shop for the Charter Group meetings which involve certain groups only. I think the fans should be kept informed especially after what has happened regarding administration etc The minutes from the last meeting of the Supporters Charter Group were published on here and elsewhere within 12 hours of the meeting. Nothing was held back. They included the answers to questions 6 and 7 above. That meeting was held the day after Warne was appointed. The minutes of the previous meeting were also on here and the club has stated in those that they wish to reinstate fan forums as soon as they can. I'd imagine it's on an extremely long list of things they have to do. I am puzzled how Taribo know the answers to questions that I suspect the club themselves don't fully know yet. Perhaps he is David Clowes? The SCG is only a closed shop in as much the people attending are representing many different constituencies. You are all open to joining RamsTrust, Punjabi Rams, the official supporters clubs, Black and White Together, Rams Heritage etc if you want to feed into the process. If you're from a group that isn't represented, ask the club how to get involved. Or do you expect that any individual can just to tip up on the day and fire away? I think that's a great idea and I can't see where it might go wrong. In fact, I think Rishi should suggest that for the Houses of Parliament! LeedsCityRam, Boycie, CBRammette and 7 others 5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, angieram said: The minutes from the last meeting of the Supporters Charter Group were published on here and elsewhere within 12 hours of the meeting. Nothing was held back. They included the answers to questions 6 and 7 above. That meeting was held the day after Warne was appointed. The minutes of the previous meeting were also on here and the club has stated in those that they wish to reinstate fan forums as soon as they can. I'd imagine it's on an extremely long list of things they have to do. I am puzzled how Taribo know the answers to questions that I suspect the club themselves don't fully know yet. Perhaps he is David Clowes? The SCG is only a closed shop in as much the people attending are representing many different constituencies. You are all open to joining RamsTrust, Punjabi Rams, the official supporters clubs, Black and White Together, Rams Heritage etc if you want to feed into the process. If you're from a group that isn't represented, ask the club how to get involved. Or do you expect that any individual can just to tip up on the day and fire away? I think that's a great idea and I can't see where it might go wrong. In fact, I think Rishi should suggest that for the Houses of Parliament! No I think David Clowes should talk to the press that’s all. I do appreciate efforts from fan groups and attendees of the Charter Meetings to inform people but that doesn’t get widely read even though it’s published. I believe you attended the last one for DCFCFANS ie this forum and you did report on it as did Punjabi Rams etc. Open and honest is what we need . Why was Rosenior replaced ! angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, angieram said: I am puzzled how Taribo know the answers to questions that I suspect the club themselves don't fully know yet. Perhaps he is David Clowes? This would be the worst episode of Stars in their eyes ever shown on UK television. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, Curtains said: No I think David Clowes should talk to the press that’s all I’d rather we never heard from the man writing the cheques in the press to be honest. Ram-Alf, strawhillram, Mick Brolly and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: I’d rather we never heard from the man writing the cheques in the press to be honest. If he had to go to the press and explain why, Where, When and who then the games up for him, Fans will dissect every word and use the negatives against him. Miggins, ThePrisoner, Curtains and 6 others 2 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, Curtains said: No I think David Clowes should talk to the press that’s all. I do appreciate efforts from fan groups and attendees of the Charter Meetings to inform people but that doesn’t get widely read even though it’s published. I believe you attended the last one for DCFCFANS ie this forum and you did report on it as did Punjabi Rams etc. Open and honest is what we need . Why was Rosenior replaced ! Angie represented RamsTrust at the last meeting, we no longer have a representative on the SCG. Curtains, angieram and Boycie 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, Curtains said: No I think David Clowes should talk to the press that’s all. I do appreciate efforts from fan groups and attendees of the Charter Meetings to inform people but that doesn’t get widely read even though it’s published. I believe you attended the last one for DCFCFANS ie this forum and you did report on it as did Punjabi Rams etc. Open and honest is what we need . Why was Rosenior replaced ! I hope we hardly ever hear from him in the press. I think we’ve had enough from an owner talking to the media. I’d rather he just went about his business in private and delivers a long-term sustainable plan. As fans, we won’t like every decision, as we’re seeing with the manager debates. That’s no different to working for a company. But we’re all emotionally invested in a football club from when we were kids, which makes us want answers, even though we may never get them. I think DC alluded to an answer for LR leaving at the last forum. @angieram will know better than me - I find most people do - but he said something along the lines of they owed LR a duty of care to protect his managerial career. An interesting statement and not one you hear when a manager leaves a club. Maybe they felt that LR had been affected by the last couple of years, and who wouldn’t be? Maybe they felt a fresh start might do him good in the long-term? We’ll never know, but I’m sure it wasn’t a decision taken likely and, in DC’s view, the best for the long-term. Phoenix, angieram, Curtains and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, David said: Angie represented RamsTrust at the last meeting, we no longer have a representative on the SCG. Ok sorry my mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Curtains said: Ok sorry my mistake Also, the SCG meetings are an EFL requirement, talking to the press isn’t. Quote Clubs are required to meet with a representative group of supporters at least twice a season to discuss significant issues relating to the club. https://www.efl.com/supporters/supporters-charter/consultation--supporter-engagement/ In general you very rarely hear from owners in the press, so if you have questions, get involved, join a supporters club and voice your concerns and ask questions through them. RadioactiveWaste, Curtains and angieram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 36 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: I’d rather we never heard from the man writing the cheques in the press to be honest. Totally agree, wish P W wouldnt be in the media so much as well. Just keep quiet and get on with the job. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Kathcairns said: Totally agree, wish P W wouldnt be in the media so much as well. Just keep quiet and get on with the job. He’s literally been in the media as much as any other manager up and down the country is required to do. No more and no less. Pre and post match press conferences and then interviews with in-house media and radio/television. I don’t get the accusations being thrown his way that he talks too much. Fans complain if a manager is a dullard with no personality or if he’s got a quirky personality who comes out with one liners here and now. He can’t win! FlyBritishMidland, RedSox, ilkleyram and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Taribo said: 1. Was it not possible to appoint Warne during the summer so that he could assemble the squad that he would have wanted? No 2.Did Warne assure him that he could work with the current squad or is he expecting a lot of trading during upcoming transfer windows? (And follow up: how frustrating would that be?). Yes, and second, 'a few new faces' 3. Does he and Warne put much emphasis on the Academy, including recruitment of young talent and Category 1 status? Yes 4. Was the aim promotion this season or, given Warne's 4 year contract, the bigger picture is the Derby County rebuild with promotion as and when it happens? Rebuild stability 5. Are targets - e.g. regarding league position, academy graduates breaking into the first team - being set? Yes 6.Onto more general things: over what timescales does he see himself as the owner? Having been reluctant in the first instance, would he be looking to sell? Soon? In the Championship? In the Premier League? Impossible to tell 7. Given Warne's title is Head Coach rather than Manager, will the club be appointing a Director of Football to oversee transfers, playing strategies etc? No. @Taribo giving very definite answers here. Has @IslandExile just outed our owner's username? IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: He’s literally been in the media as much as any other manager up and down the country is required to do. No more and no less. Pre and post match press conferences and then interviews with in-house media and radio/television. I don’t get the accusations being thrown his way that he talks too much. Fans complain if a manager is a dullard with no personality or if he’s got a quirky personality who comes out with one liners here and now. He can’t win! But if got things to say about players dont you think he should say it to them privately not on the radio, thats what i meant. At the end of the day we have all got our opinions, thats life and football is like everything else, youve got to take the good and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 I am sure i read there was interest in warne in july? Not sure why we didnt go then for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Kathcairns said: But if got things to say about players dont you think he should say it to them privately not on the radio, thats what i meant. At the end of the day we have all got our opinions, thats life and football is like everything else, youve got to take the good and bad. You’d have hated Sir Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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