i-Ram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Ok, another spirit has appeared. Someone perhaps called Mel or Mal? Maybe Maladministration? Anyone? vonwright, jimtastic56, europia and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsy1884 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) I doubt he will show his face anywhere near the city again. What he has done is unforgivable and I have not seen one bit of remorse. He cast us off knowing full well the situation. He is never going to come back to resolve this. This will be his legacy forever. Either the man who killed the Rams or the one who nearly did. Edited January 20, 2022 by kingsy1884 DarkFruitsRam7, GboroRam and S8TY 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 come on everyone on here knows deep down he was/is a fan yes its gone down the wrong path and lots of mistakes have been made!! But come on you dont chuck £200m at your hometown club if you not a fan, all this talk of he wanted the fame baalocks hes a ultra high net worth individual do you really think he was bothered, the only fame he wanted was the adulation of gettting Derby to the prem! The Scarlet Pimpernel, hintonsboots, Tyler Durden and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Dhabi Ram Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 How much did Mel put in??, we owe an awful lot of money and don’t own our assets… makes you wonder. IMO he needs to be held fully accountable, there is no way he should be able to wash his hands of us after all this. vonwright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, Abu Dhabi Ram said: How much did Mel put in??, we owe an awful lot of money and don’t own our assets… makes you wonder. IMO he needs to be held fully accountable, there is no way he should be able to wash his hands of us after all this. I'm with you. Still to be reliably proven how much he's lost personally by this. Just my opinion and fag packet maths but it's nowhere near 200 million. S8TY, RAM1966 and atherstoneram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 hours ago, observer said: come on everyone on here knows deep down he was/is a fan yes its gone down the wrong path and lots of mistakes have been made!! But come on you dont chuck £200m at your hometown club if you not a fan, all this talk of he wanted the fame baalocks hes a ultra high net worth individual do you really think he was bothered, the only fame he wanted was the adulation of gettting Derby to the prem! How do you know he invested 200 mill of his own money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, observer said: come on everyone on here knows deep down he was/is a fan yes its gone down the wrong path and lots of mistakes have been made!! But come on you dont chuck £200m at your hometown club if you not a fan, all this talk of he wanted the fame baalocks hes a ultra high net worth individual do you really think he was bothered, the only fame he wanted was the adulation of gettting Derby to the prem! The maverick approach to the clubs finances is unforgivable. The previous DCFC owner opted to not pay HMRC, racking up a debt of almost £30m, which he then dumped into administration. I find that highly offensive. I have run a company and always paid the tax due, whether I agreed with the taxation policy or not. No doubt most, if not all Rams fans have to pay their taxes. As well as the financial shambles he chose to make an enemy of the EFL, then left the battlefield. That act in itself has a significant bearing on todays problems. Everyone makes mistakes, but they shouldn't be confused with conscious decisions made by people who know exactly why and what they are doing. Edited January 20, 2022 by europia jimtastic56, RAM1966, Rev and 6 others 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Where are you? "...Rooney will emerge with metaphorical credit in the bank whatever happens but for now sees a bigger picture. He sees a proud club on their knees, a city holding its breath. As for his anger, that is reserved for the club’s former owner Mel Morris, the man who gambled everything on reaching the Premier League and lost. ‘He is why we are in this situation,’ said Rooney. ‘I am sure the fans would agree. He did not speak to me when he was at the club. ‘I don’t like to waste my breath on that anyway. He has moved on and left us in a very difficult situation. I am sure he is enjoying his life at home. ‘Other people are now trying to fix this and I am just trying to fix it from a football point of view. ‘If we can get the right people in then this club can be great again. But right now survival is the most important thing.’" Edited January 22, 2022 by RoyMac5 Comrade 86 and Inverurie Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Where are you? "...Rooney will emerge with metaphorical credit in the bank whatever happens but for now sees a bigger picture. He sees a proud club on their knees, a city holding its breath. As for his anger, that is reserved for the club’s former owner Mel Morris, the man who gambled everything on reaching the Premier League and lost. ‘He is why we are in this situation,’ said Rooney. ‘I am sure the fans would agree. He did not speak to me when he was at the club. ‘I don’t like to waste my breath on that anyway. He has moved on and left us in a very difficult situation. I am sure he is enjoying his life at home. ‘Other people are now trying to fix this and I am just trying to fix it from a football point of view. ‘If we can get the right people in then this club can be great again. But right now survival is the most important thing.’" It's difficult not to love him, isn't it? RAM1966, Inverurie Ram and RoyMac5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 20/01/2022 at 15:59, observer said: come on everyone on here knows deep down he was/is a fan yes its gone down the wrong path and lots of mistakes have been made!! But come on you dont chuck £200m at your hometown club if you not a fan, all this talk of he wanted the fame baalocks hes a ultra high net worth individual do you really think he was bothered, the only fame he wanted was the adulation of gettting Derby to the prem! Speak for yourself. To me he comes across as a typical businessmen who saw a chance to make a quick buck getting to the Premier League after the QPR game. I dont think he cares about the club at all based on his recent actions and allegedly investing £200 mill is nothing when you get that much for one season in the prem. It certainly doessnt make him a fan just because he piddled all his money away on stupid decisions Archied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Could/would any true fan be able to walk away from the club in this state? Especially if you’re the one who put it on the brink of extinction? Jimbo Ram, Archied, CBRammette and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 22 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: Could/would any true fan be able to walk away from the club in this state? Especially if you’re the one who put it on the brink of extinction? I’m not trying to defend Mel for the serious mistakes he’s made (I’ve done that before and since regretted it) but I’m not entirely convinced he’s just walked away. For example, according to the BAWT Twitter extract earlier, the club are not currently being charged any rent for use of the ground. I just hope it’s literally being provided rent free rather than the rent due continuing to accrue with an extortionate rate of interest being applied. The only way I can see Mel could possibly raise his head again is if he owned up to the mistakes he’d made or allowed to happen under his stewardship and to be generous to the club, once a new owner is secured, regarding the stadium. Alph and CBRammette 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Mel won’t help us now, he said he’d walk away if fans demonstrated against him. ‘One of our own’ has done a full Judas circle it would seem. GenBr, atherstoneram and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: Mel won’t help us now, he said he’d walk away if fans demonstrated against him. ‘One of our own’ has done a full Judas circle it would seem. He didn't walk away. He ran away and hid. Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It's difficult not to love him, isn't it? What I really like about Rooney is his basic decency. Don't walk away from a mess you made, take responsibility for the people affected by your decisions, don't run away and hide. Just basic stuff you learn as a kid. Footballers always get accused of letting the money and fame go to their heads, of losing touch, of lacking a basic moral compass. And Rooney had a lot more fame and money than most. And yet he's stuck with us at an incredibly difficult time, managing under huge restrictions, putting his reputation at great risk (let's be honest even a lot of Derby fans thought he was failing at one point), because he thinks it's the right thing to do. If he goes to Everton I'll remember him as a great manager for us, and a great man. (Yep I'm ignoring his personal life!) Edited January 22, 2022 by vonwright RAM1966, David Graham Brown, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peakram Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Very kind of Morris that he will apparently give any new owner first option on the stadium!! It was a badly worded question by Radio Derby when Morris said he had put in 20 million, they originally asked how much have you lost and then before he could answer, repeated the question as how much have you put in, so I would take that as being money put in and certainly not lost, if you can believe what he says after all the goings on that is. Edited January 22, 2022 by peakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Where are you? "...Rooney will emerge with metaphorical credit in the bank whatever happens but for now sees a bigger picture. He sees a proud club on their knees, a city holding its breath. As for his anger, that is reserved for the club’s former owner Mel Morris, the man who gambled everything on reaching the Premier League and lost. ‘He is why we are in this situation,’ said Rooney. ‘I am sure the fans would agree. He did not speak to me when he was at the club. ‘I don’t like to waste my breath on that anyway. He has moved on and left us in a very difficult situation. I am sure he is enjoying his life at home. ‘Other people are now trying to fix this and I am just trying to fix it from a football point of view. ‘If we can get the right people in then this club can be great again. But right now survival is the most important thing.’" Rooney's not daft that's been abundantly clear from the moment he came into the club. Unlike some posters on this forum who still try and irrationally defend Morris. Delusional. Edited January 22, 2022 by Tyler Durden atherstoneram and RAM1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Rooney not daft that's being abundantly clear from the moment he came into the club. Unlike some posters on this forum who still try and irrationally defend Morris. Delusional. I two-edged sword though not having the owner speak to you in your very first management job. The good side of it being Morris didn't get to interfere like he did with other managers! ? Edited January 22, 2022 by RoyMac5 Inverurie Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I two-edged sword though not having the owner speak to you in your very first management job. The good side of it being Morris didn't get to interfere like he did with other managers! ? Yes from reading the article in The Times Rooney should probably have been thankful of that RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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