CBRammette Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Finch said: Money is his god certainly not the Rams. What sort of a ‘business man’ doesn’t pay HMRC. To be polite shameful behaviour. Quite a lot but in different planned ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Finch said: Money is his god certainly not the Rams. What sort of a ‘business man’ doesn’t pay HMRC. To be polite shameful behaviour. Vodafone, Apple, Google, Meta, Virgin Atlantic. I could go on. CBRammette, Crewton, tomsdubs and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rev said: Vodafone, Apple, Google, Meta, Virgin Atlantic. I could go on. What you are suggesting regarding those corporations, it's classed as tax avoidance, and while it's very unpalatable, it's not illegal. What Mr Morris chose to do was to withhold tax payments that were legally due.... bad enough, he then made the conscious decision to dump the circa £29m HMRC debt into administration. Appalling behaviour in my opinion. Edited January 24, 2022 by europia jimtastic56, RadioactiveWaste and David Graham Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, europia said: What you are suggesting regarding those corporations, it's classed as tax avoidance, and while it's very unpalatable, it's not illegal. What Mr Morris chose to do was to withhold tax payments that were legally due.... bad enough, he then made the conscious decision to dump the circa £29m HMRC debt into administration. Appalling behaviour in my opinion. It should be illegal…. RAM1966, ramit, jimtastic56 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, europia said: What you are suggesting regarding those corporations, it's classed as tax avoidance, and while it's very unpalatable, it's not illegal. What Mr Morris chose to do was to withhold tax payments that were legally due.... bad enough, he then made the conscious decision to dump the circa £29m HMRC debt into administration. Appalling behaviour in my opinion. Agreed. europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, europia said: What you are suggesting regarding those corporations, it's classed as tax avoidance, and while it's very unpalatable, it's not illegal. What Mr Morris chose to do was to withhold tax payments that were legally due.... bad enough, he then made the conscious decision to dump the circa £29m HMRC debt into administration. Appalling behaviour in my opinion. Either way the end result is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 19 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: It should be illegal…. If enough people wanted vengeance enough they could probably raise a civil case if they so desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, bimmerman said: If enough people wanted vengeance enough they could probably raise a civil case if they so desired Vengeance….fairness more like…. RadioactiveWaste and bimmerman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 19 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: It should be illegal…. International commerce will ultimately lead to international taxation in the end. Maybe it'll be another 50 or 100 years, but in the end the days of "actually all of our profitable business was done on a tiny island that happens to have naff all tax and all the business we did in your country didn't make any taxable profit" are going to come to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 For god's sake Mel, stop pissing about and put the ownership of the stadium in a perpetual trust, administered by elected local people exclusively for the benefit of the club, city,county and country it stands in. You took over ownership of this club on an investment equals equity basis, the Americans took a haircut to allow you to play with a grown ups trainset, now step aside and let us survive ffs. The last owners went without seeing a penny profit, indeed massively down on their investment, now step up and do the same, even if we have to service a £15m mortgage on the ground, which you inherited, please please please leave this club in no worse state than you found it, that is surely the minimum you should do for this club! Zag zig, Pikeyram, IslandExile and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Rev said: For god's sake Mel, stop pissing about and put the ownership of the stadium in a perpetual trust, administered by elected local people exclusively for the benefit of the club, city,county and country it stands in. You took over ownership of this club on an investment equals equity basis, the Americans took a haircut to allow you to play with a grown ups trainset, now step aside and let us survive ffs. The last owners went without seeing a penny profit, indeed massively down on their investment, now step up and do the same, even if we have to service a £15m mortgage on the ground, which you inherited, please please please leave this club in no worse state than you found it, that is surely the minimum you should do for this club! Your last sentence...think that ship has sailed.... Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Rev said: The last owners went without seeing a penny profit, indeed massively down on their investment, now step up and do the same, even if we have to service a £15m mortgage on the ground, which you inherited, please please please leave this club in no worse state than you found it, that is surely the minimum you should do for this club! Jimbo Ram, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, Yani P and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) Edited January 27, 2022 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 The worst Dr since Harold Shipman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: This is getting desperate now. It seems that as we fight to save our club, the only people left to help us that we can trust are the politicians. Edited January 27, 2022 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 16 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said: This is getting desperate now. It seems that as we fight to save our club, the only people left to help us that we can trust are the politicians. When you put it like that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said: This is getting desperate now. It seems that as we fight to save our club, the only people left to help us that we can trust are the politicians. I never expected to hear someone say we can trust politicians ? Edited January 28, 2022 by StrawHillRam RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, StrawHillRam said: I never expected to hear someone say we can trust politicians ? It's only because the only goal of the politicos is "we saved DCFC" - I'd extend my trust to them only that far because "I'm the MP who let DCFC die" isn't going to help them be re-elected, no matter how much they say "it wasn't my fault". That's why getting them involved was a good move, far more than any hope the government would do anything (although getting HMRC behind the scenes to take a bigger hit than they'd like but never actually saying so, might also help) David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 19/01/2022 at 20:15, Cook1988 said: Any can they get a message to mel Morris, Pay up for your mistakes, you caused all this not the fans Us Derby fans follow Derby through and through, we live for Derby County He is wealthy and surely he can pay 50 mill if it saves us According to the Sunday Times Rich List 2020, Morris is said to have amassed a fortune of £515m, making him the joint 268th richest person in the UK, and the joint 11th richest in the East Midlands. Alot of people's mental heath will be at risk, mine certainly will be ? Appealing directly to Mel and reiterating the OP’s post @Cook1988. Mel, if you still have a reasonable amount of wealth ( that’s subjective depending on a persons current situation) please do the right thing. Give the stadium away to the prospective new owner and honour at least some of the debt you have amassed. This is not a normal business transaction, it’s personal to perhaps 50k Rams fans. Do you really want the ruination of DCFC on your CV ?? I know you read this Forum. Crewton, Kathcairns, Premier ram and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 1 minute ago, hintonsboots said: Appealing directly to Mel and reiterating the OP’s post @Cook1988. Mel, if you still have a reasonable amount of wealth ( that’s subjective depending on a persons current situation) please do the right thing. Give the stadium away to the prospective new owner and honour at least some of the debt you have amassed. This is not a normal business transaction, it’s personal to perhaps 50k Rams fans. Do you really want the ruination of DCFC on your CV ?? I know you read this Forum. Just suggested a public statement of this same sentiment on another thread, perhaps with a banner at the games? Derby4Me, jimtastic56, hintonsboots and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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