Retro_RAM Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kuskus said: Everyone keeps saying Mike Ashley buying us will result in -15 points but surely he would want us to have the best chance possible in getting promotion as he is a very good businessman. Exactly, MA is a businessman first and foremost. He wants to make money and having two seasons in League One or worse a season in League 1 and then another in League 2 is not good for business there is no money in these leagues. Hell, there is barely any money in the Championship but at least there is a bit more TV money. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I think questions need to be asked of the influence the forum managment have over Quantuma. After all, who stands to gain the most from dragging out the process? Who counts the clicks? We the posters need to know! ThePrisoner, atherstoneram, jimtastic56 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 How can so many months of feck all produce so much "behind the scenes discussions"? Do they all communicate by pigeon mail? Like, sure multi million pound deals I don't imagine you swipe your card over a reader. I can only imagine these behind the scenes talks are like; I have £××× Oh can you prove it Yes, in 3 weeks OK, we'll wait Actually, I added up wrong OK, we'll count you out Wait, how much was it again? I forgot It was £×××× Oh, I don't want to pay that Well, just have a think on it. Yeah sure. We'll wait. I'd like to pay less Well there's other people interested. But we don't like them. You like me? Yes. You seem pretty straight forward. OK, I'm gonna save up. BRB (How many months does it take to have a progressive conversation with serious people? Are they limited to 1 email per day?) jono, Patrick Rams, eccles the ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Tyler Durden, RoyMac5, Zag zig and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 This was clearly inevitable and thank goodness he has gone, as we need a realistic buyer. I would have loved him to have been real, but it was patently obvious from the middle of last week that he was not - and we need to move forward, so happy we have got over a big hurdle. Everything is now back on the table, which is positive. As I said yesterday, we need a proper crunch point to force minds. We cannot delay this anymore and should have confronted this in January; we need to face down our problems and come to a solution. Hard choices are going to be necessary - and fifteen points is a very very small price to pay. Promotional pushes and stuff like that are irrelevant - even relegation again might be a necessary evil We need to survive as a club, and L1 L2 etc don't really matter. In three years we can worry about those things. Today, we are contending with the sharks so our other instincts need to go on hold until we are safe and sound. alram, May Contain Nuts, norwichram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, Papahet said: Certainly not "CASH" is it? Nope ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Just now, CBX1985 said: This was clearly inevitable and thank goodness he has gone, as we need a realistic buyer. I would have loved him to have been real, but it was patently obvious from the middle of last week that he was not - and we need to move forward, so happy we have got over a big hurdle. Everything is now back on the table, which is positive. As I said yesterday, we need a proper crunch point to force minds. We cannot delay this anymore and should have confronted this in January; we need to face down our problems and come to a solution. Hard choices are going to be necessary - and fifteen points is a very very small price to pay. Promotional pushes and stuff like that are irrelevant - even relegation again might be a necessary evil We need to survive as a club, and L1 L2 etc don't really matter. In three years we can worry about those things. Today, we are contending with the sharks so our other instincts need to go on hold until we are safe and sound. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) The -15 points just doesn’t make sense to me. We would lose our manager who is arguably worth millions in compensation. We would lose most if not all of our players who need a new deal and those under contract would probably have no motivation and want out. They’d end up going for free or for peanuts. Ticket sales would be down for the year losing millions. I don’t know how much under the required amount MA is offering but surely it doesn’t financially make sense when all things considered. Edited June 13, 2022 by Mckram Ram1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 My employer is not going to be pleased with these latest revelations. Precious little work getting done, but plenty of screen time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, derby8 said: possibly what HMRC will settle at. Good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, CBRammette said: Anyone else worried what will happen when we get to page 2022 still in admin? Silver lining - If we get to page 2027 it will at least provide us with some reassurance that there is still a DCFC to be Fans of 5 years from now. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Mckram said: The -15 points just doesn’t make sense to me. We would lose our manager who is arguably worth millions in compensation. We would lose most if not all of our players who need a new deal and those under contract would probably have no motivation and want out. They’d end up going for free or for peanuts. Ticket sales would be down for the year losing millions. I don’t know how much under the required amount MA is offering but surely it doesn’t financially make sense when all things considered. The manager or players staying doesn't guarentee promotion look after the club sustainably. every penny saved will be pennies that can be put back into rebuilding the club we got into this position in the first place chasing results. strip down, back to being sustainable please Ramarena, FlyBritishMidland, Nishfan and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, StaffsRam said: We can easily survive -15 in L1. Then go the season after. MA would probably be okay with -15 and lose 12 months if it saves him £20m. I wouldn’t be so sure with no real squad in place that we will survive a 15 point deduction…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Just now, Jimbo Ram said: I wouldn’t be so sure with no real squad in place that we will survive a 15 point deduction…. I think it more likely than not tbh. That being said, of course, that’s why I said “can” and not “would” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mckram said: The -15 points just doesn’t make sense to me. We would lose our manager who is arguably worth millions in compensation. We would lose most if not all of our players who need a new deal and those under contract would probably have no motivation and want out. They’d end up going for free or for peanuts. Ticket sales would be down for the year losing millions. I don’t know how much under the required amount MA is offering but surely it doesn’t financially make sense when all things considered. Exactly this. Save £5m but lose more in the first 12 months including some supporters who may never return Mckram, jimtastic56 and r_wilcockson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Don't believe a word from this feller. I'm going to wait to see what Rod Dessert has to say..... ? Ram-Alf, Gaspode, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 "Both, who I'm told, saw reassurances of proof of funds" How thorough. Wtf is a reassurance of proof of funds. "I promise I'm really rich." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, alram said: The manager or players staying doesn't guarentee promotion look after the club sustainably. every penny saved will be pennies that can be put back into rebuilding the club we got into this position in the first place chasing results. strip down, back to being sustainable please I’m not talking about promotion. I’m talking about our assets left. Rooney walks that’s potentially what, £4m compensation if he was to leave us for another team like Lampard. If Rooney stays then maybe some players sign a new deal and they’re assets. Without Rooney I can’t see anyone staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: I wouldn’t be so sure with no real squad in place that we will survive a 15 point deduction…. 100 per cent. Doesn’t make sense. Looking at league 2 with that penalty. atherstoneram and Jimbo Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles the ram Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 If we do survive (please God) I can live with a minus 15 points deduction. Rooney HAS to stay, so whoever is our owner they need to tie him down for at least two more years. With his contacts we have a better chance of fielding a team which could compete in Division 1 . You never know we could reach the playoffs!!! No I haven't been at the falling down water - ok - sorry that's a 'Kirschism '- I have had one or two! LeedsCityRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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