CBX1985

I think I posted on here at the time a few days before it transpired, that Rooney probably did want to stay,but his going was inevitable. When Chris Kirchner was "supposedly" going to buy us Rooney was all in on the idea - and seemed fully on board. Had that not have been fairy dust of a fraudster, I suspect he would have done. When that fell through, WR was somewhat tainted by it (I doubt any of which was his fault). Then when Clowes put his bid in and it was accepted, Rooney must have seen (or been advised) that there was no way Clowes was going to want to pay managerial salaries at that level (for an inexperienced manager, but with top level playing experience). Clowes clearly wanted us to be normal - rather than Wayne Rooney/Frank Lampard's Derby. In those instances, it was both inevitable that he was going to leave - and he got to make the decision himself.

A fair comment, but I just don't think we know what his football is like. At this level, we are never going to pay to get Championship level players (more than just a few) as the risk of failure is too large. He has to do what he can with what he has - means justify ends, and we need(ed) promotion. Should we be promoted on Saturday, my view is that PW starts again, a new coach on a two year deal. His new job will be very different from his last one - albeit from the same dugout. That is when, in my view, we judge the standard of his football.

I think the legal challenge would scare the EFL off. They would be pointed to all of the others and asked: where are their deductions? Could have all sorts of ramifications throughout all the leagues in England. Non starter.

Thank you. I was three years old at the time, so wasn't fully up on matters back then 🙂 I do think it a better format.

I think I would rather there was a breaking the link with "automatic promotion" with the third spot. So, I would have third bottom from league above join a league with third in this league (to avoid relegation). The next 4-7 play a round of one off games to join to make the final two (of join main play off). There be a draw for who plays team from 3rd bottom (of league above) and who plays 3rd from top (of this). Then a final. Would create more to play for at the bottom as well as top, as even if relegated you might be able to claw yourself to a chance of survival. No more games dates. And less bitterness over finishing third.

I've been looking out for the semaphore but nothing so far.

Play Man City at home: full house. Play Morecambe at home: 6,000.

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If we'd go up finishing sixth playing the worst football ever seen it would be the best achievement since 2006/07. We have achieved exactly nothing tangible since then. Come close a few times, but fallen short. We can only start to play flowing football in the Championship. We could be the 1970 Brazil team and would struggle in this league. Getting promoted is a stunning achievement - even if it is our minimum standard.

You resemble more of a TB kind of guy.

It would be a party in the (Pride) Park. "ole" will ring out with every pass. There won't be a trophy, but will be a victory parade in all but name.

Yes, but they would need to lose both remaining games and us win them.

I know there are some people willing to sit in the home end at away matches. I do wonder, seeing as a club like Carlisle don't have a massive fan base, whether some people might have considered sitting in the away end at a home game. Not suggesting it, of course.

Can and should are different things. You can debate anything at anytime. It doesn't mean you should. It comes across to me as pure Monty Python to have a debate about sacking a manager two games out from a clubs greatest achievement since 2006/07.

For good or ill, football is a results business. I nearly lost faith following the Crewe defeat in November (as I was nervous of the tactics), but a winning run put an end to that. Warne, should we gain promotion, will then have a two year contract playing in the Championship. I think, based on statements by Clowes, he would have a goal of keeping us up and everything else being a bonus. Failure there, and I think he would be in deep trouble. You ask about when to have the debate. Simple; it becomes live when any of the following happen: a) if we fail to go up - the debate starts immediately on us being knocked out the pay offs b) we go up, he get's a budget but it doesn't work and he offers no constructive approach to remedy the issue (effectively we are slow walking to relegation) - but this is next January/Feb at the earliest c) we are re-relegated, under all the circumstances. My point is that he is going for set goals, which i contend some are confusing for tactics. A strategy is: we get up, stay up and then, and only then, truly look to kick on. If he fails at any of these strategy, there are arguments the strategy has not worked. Tactics are how you get there. The tactics will change with the opposition, let alone the league. The players will improve as TV money will allow a better standard. The demands and the style of play will change. Our current tactics probably will not work. Warne's job will be to find the players and the tactics to meet his objective. We cannot judge him on a standard, when we demand he meets a completely different standard that is wholly divergent: we demand he gets results to win promotion, but in a less skilful league of flying tackles where fancy football gets you loads of possession and no end result (ala LR). We then criticise the lack of skill. Therefore, he has to win the promotion in front of him like beating the team in front of you. He is plainly succeeding here. We have no idea what a Warne side in the Championship will look like, never mind the tactics he would deploy - and nor do you nor anyone on this site. Rotherham gives a guide, but they did not have our resources and only tell you so much. The fact is, if he succeeds he has earned his shot