davenportram Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, IronRam 140.6 said: Absolutely this. Amen Footballers unless retiring should have a 'scrap value' applied when contract runs out. Similar to a vehicle (my area of work) at end of working life. Then comes the arguments over how those scrap values are worked out. But not insurmountable. As players are free to move at the end of their contracts they cannot have any value to the club at all. That’s why they are called free agents Indy and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: (A) eg all the stuff in the carefully crafted minutes we’ve seen. Simply no point in going back to them on those points it’s just a waste of our time and theirs. (B) eg assertions Gibbo was not acting in good faith (of course they can’t), assertions the LAP was biased, got it wrong (of course they can’t) So using this same logic it should have been fine to ignore the Boro and WW cases as the administrators had addressed them. Disagree re Gibson, agree re the LAP, although what the LAP ruled on it did not address the issue of what we were actually charged with if what Parry is now saying is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Most of my ‘input’ has been via a family member who works at a club Coneheadjohn, GenBr, RamuelLJackson and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronRam 140.6 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, davenportram said: As players are free to move at the end of their contracts they cannot have any value to the club at all. That’s why they are called free agents Couldn't a scrap value only apply to a balance sheet. Like a disposal bonus a £10 million contract write down over 5 years ending in say a free agent but 500k as a positive entry on a balance sheet??? An offset for value provided to the business or something like that. As you were ikechi anya ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Parkstone Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, IronRam 140.6 said: Couldn't a scrap value only apply to a balance sheet. Like a disposal bonus a £10 million contract write down over 5 years ending in say a free agent but 500k as a positive entry on a balance sheet??? An offset for value provided to the business or something like that. As you were ikechi anya ?? No RamuelLJackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronRam 140.6 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Geoff Parkstone said: No Thank you Geoffrey. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, IronRam 140.6 said: Couldn't a scrap value only apply to a balance sheet. Like a disposal bonus a £10 million contract write down over 5 years ending in say a free agent but 500k as a positive entry on a balance sheet??? An offset for value provided to the business or something like that. As you were ikechi anya ?? Who’d set the value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 How much these 2 sell outs brought back into the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: How much these 2 sell outs brought back into the club. About £700k I think. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: About £700k I think. Plus sales from burger fans what ever rent they get charged. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Plus sales from burger fans what ever rent they get charged. It all helps, B4. Need to keep these home attendances up and need to spend our money in the ground. Concourses were very busy today as everyone came into ground early put of the rain! jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Plus sales from burger fans what ever rent they get charged. Get Hooters in the concourse that will get the crowds flocking AbuDerbyDave, Biley66 and Comrade 86 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Call me Begerrac I've sussed who the PB will be. I'm no shopper but I've been reliably informed that house of Fraser and now Flannels are pitching up in Derbion. 2 + 2 =678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: Call me Begerrac I've sussed who the PB will be. I'm no shopper but I've been reliably informed that house of Fraser and now Flannels are pitching up in Derbion. 2 + 2 =678 Can tell you're not as you wouldn't be able to spell your own name correctly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 7 hours ago, IronRam 140.6 said: Couldn't a scrap value only apply to a balance sheet. Like a disposal bonus a £10 million contract write down over 5 years ending in say a free agent but 500k as a positive entry on a balance sheet??? An offset for value provided to the business or something like that. As you were ikechi anya ?? No. It's confusing, I grant you, but when you bring in a player, you're only paying for the right to use that player for the duration of their contract, therefore they're a non tangible asset, like goodwill, not a tangible one like property or motor vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 2 hours ago, PistoldPete said: About £700k I think. But a lot of those attending will have been season ticket holder’s wouldn’t they? Or have you taken that in to account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 9 hours ago, PistoldPete said: Efl doesn’t have to do anything. Except approve the fitness and propriety of our new owner. If candidates are Ashley or Appleby both have past experience of club ownership with no insolvencies.. and you are allowed two. So should be an easy job for them. so they just need to stop their meddling and let q finish the job of rescuing the club. Timing of lifting embargo and detail of business plan will be key though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram@Lincoln Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: But a lot of those attending will have been season ticket holder’s wouldn’t they? Or have you taken that in to account? Exactly. An uplift of circa 8-10k per sell out, even if at a averaged entry of £20 that's only £400k, or 1 week of the losses per month. Selling more tickets is 100% profit as there's no extra unit costs. Let's keep filling the ground! rammieib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rev said: No. It's confusing, I grant you, but when you bring in a player, you're only paying for the right to use that player for the duration of their contract, therefore they're a non tangible asset, like goodwill, not a tangible one like property or motor vehicles. Always thought there was something very tangible about Dave MacKay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scout's dad Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Has Gibson threatened to sue the Blades yet for derailing their promotion push today? RadioactiveWaste and S8TY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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