Comrade 86 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, angieram said: Can't help but think Rick, Trev and the those excellent chappies at the EFL going to get absolutely fookin roasted tomorrow. #thingsyoulovetosee GenBr, angieram, Indyram and 10 others 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Indy said: If we show proof off funds to end of the season, I think we exit the embargo (doesn’t even need to exit administration) - but we haven’t even done that seemingly. If all the talk is of MM accepting £10m instead of £20m for the stadium, he could put £7m down now on the understanding that his original price stood. Buyers are £3m worse off than they wanted (£20m for stadium but no running costs), and MM has £13m net instead of £20m - which is better than the £10m it looks like everyone is pushing for. And in return, the club has a better chance of staying up - which is to the advantage of all buyers and MM (as it makes the stadium more viable). Just a thought. Stop with all this positive, common sense talk, just stop! Indy and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: But if we exit administration isn't the embargo then lifted We won’t be exciting administration for about 6 months anyway at best - we can’t even get to having a preferred bidder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I’d be happy with a none preferred bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Indy said: It feels like it gets us no further forward, and keeps the embargo in place til the end of the window meaning no incoming players or contract extensions. And that weakens our position. Sounds like more meetings tomorrow though. Looking at it in a positive way, it stops the cliff edge happening on Monday whereby the administrators have to have a firesale of players, in order to complete the season. Now they have an extra month to raise the funds elsewhere. If the situation can be resolved during February then we will then be able to sign free agents and offer new contracts to existing players. Indy and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: So just jumped onto this thread again, why is the news today being taken so negatively? Because naming of PB was expected and is viewed by many as progress. As you might be suggesting, keeping more bidders in the race for longer might now be the better plan. Last thing we want is for Q to appoint a PB and then for the conditions set by that PB to fail. If that happens, we really are in the poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 As someone suggested earlier, HMRC could be the key player. They are unlikely to take kindly to the possibility of the scavengers at Middlesbrough and Wycombe getting a substantial chunk of any financial package the administrators might agree with a PB since it will seriously impact the size of their own slice of the cake. Furthermore, if no deal is forthcoming because none of the prospective buyers will risk going ahead for fear of the uncertainty of a possible claim post-administration by these two muppets, they will end up with zilch. I think it's up to our supportive MPs to pursue this line with the government / HMRC officials. r_wilcockson and Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 So are we saying that the EFL should have lifted the embargo today instead of extending it. What circumstances have changed to make the EFL consider lifting the embargo today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Tyler Durden said: So are we saying that the EFL should have lifted the embargo today instead of extending it. What circumstances have changed to make the EFL consider lifting the embargo today? I think most of us are saying that the EFL should tell the permed prat and his ambulance chasing mate to duck off and let the buyers get on with it. hintonsboots, Sparkle, Indyram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, ossieram said: I think most of us are saying that the EFL should tell the permed prat and his ambulance chasing mate to duck off and let the buyers get on with it. Sorry not trying to be obtuse but what has changed today for the EFL to suddenly alter their stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/mel-morris-role-business-ambassador-6557839.amp Definately not passing any fit and proper persons test for being a business ambassador Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Sorry not trying to be obtuse but what has changed today for the EFL to suddenly alter their stance Sod all, they still don't have a legitimate claim to any money. Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 35 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: So just jumped onto this thread again, why is the news today being taken so negatively? I think because hopes were raised when MPs meeting cancelled saying due to progress or something over the weekend. Also few people suggesting would be more positive news today. Then just blah blah blah as Greta would say Jon Bon Pony, jimtastic56, Tyler Durden and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oldben said: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/mel-morris-role-business-ambassador-6557839.amp Definately not passing any fit and proper persons test for being a business ambassador I dunno about you, but I’m thinking being a “business ambassador” isn’t a sold gold guarantee of being a jolly good egg. whiteroseram, GboroRam, GenBr and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, Oldben said: https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/mel-morris-role-business-ambassador-6557839.amp Definately not passing any fit and proper persons test for being a business ambassador There's no such thing as the fit and proper persons test anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Was that a rhetorical question If we get a buyer for the club then we exit administration and the embargo is then lifted so the months extension is neither here no there surely The new owners have to agree a two year business plan with the EFL. Apparently, that is likely to include limits on squad size, salaries and transfer fees. Whilst technically not an embargo, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a soft embargo. Zag zig, RoyMac5, RadioactiveWaste and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Anyone played Persona 5? I think the only option left to us now might be to give The Phantom Thieves a call. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Because naming of PB was expected and is viewed by many as progress. As you might be suggesting, keeping more bidders in the race for longer might now be the better plan. Last thing we want is for Q to appoint a PB and then for the conditions set by that PB to fail. If that happens, we really are in the poo To describe our situation - we are in a swimming pool of ? poo and we are just trying to get to the shallow end. jimtastic56, kevinhectoring and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Can't help but think Rick, Trev and the those excellent chappies at the EFL going to get absolutely fookin roasted tomorrow. #thingsyoulovetosee I suppose it depends on what is reported back. I suspect the EFL and Admin’s may be able to BS enough to hoodwink the MP’s into thinking everything is ok (let’s face it half of them have been by their boss for months). The question I would ask to start is on a scale of 1 - 10 with 1 being liquidation and 10 being coming out of administration where are we. If they say anything lower than 8 it’s time to kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I suspect that folk are just feeling that punting the decision a month on will just result in the same conversations that were about to happen (when a deal would hopefully thrashed out because the crunch time was approaching fast) will just happen in a last minute rush in a months time instead. More fees, more uncertainty. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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