LeedsCityRam Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Keepyuppy said: No no no - I wouldnt want to see ramstrust anywhere near the running of the club. My opinion of them is they think they are some kind of 'elite' supporters, I believe that they genuinely think they are more intelligent than the ordinary supporter and know better than ordinary supporters. Trust ?,,,,,,,,,,,, I wouldn't trust any of them. George Orwells Animal Farm springs to mind !!! Both@AutoWindscreens & myself have addressed this point already - really would like to bury it as a 'problem'. Let me be emphatic. We can turn RamsTrust into whatever we want. RamsTrust is currently a small group of supporters but if we decided to buy the club, we'd all end up joining RT to get a say in how the club is run, meaning it would reflect the fanbase as a whole. New people can be elected to the Board at RT & it is one member one vote. Therefore we can dilute whatever personalities have annoyed people in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 @LeedsCityRam I think the idea is great but I fear the real problem will be finding the people who know what they're doing and have the time to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Put me down for 5k i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepyuppy Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 This is exactly the problem - ramstrust have historically badged themselves that they are ‘captains of business’, undisputedly experienced in being able to run a football club. Utter twaddle !!! Sunday pub team maybe, but a professional football club of the status of Derby County FC,,,,,,,,,, fantasy island,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I think it’s clear from many of the replies that when people think of “fan ownership”, what they have in mind is forum polls selecting the team sheet. The most disagreeable fan base in the country could make a success of running their club if the set up is correct. LeedsCityRam, sheeponacid, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, IslandExile said: @LeedsCityRam I think the idea is great but I fear the real problem will be finding the people who know what they're doing and have the time to do it. Fair point but there will be a lot of talented & knowledgeable people within our fanbase who could move this forward & the capacity to do so. The biggest challenge is getting the idea & a working group off the ground - the next stage would be to get some roles drawn up & people nominated into those roles/cast the net for specific expertise in areas where we're weak. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I think immediate wages may need addressing quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: Fair point but there will be a lot of talented & knowledgeable people within our fanbase who could move this forward & the capacity to do so. The biggest challenge is getting the idea & a working group off the ground - the next stage would be to get some roles drawn up & people nominated into those roles/cast the net for specific expertise in areas where we're weak. Well I wish you the very best of good luck - of course I do. I really like the idea and the German model shows it can work in the upper tiers of a football league. One month is a very short time to organise something like that though. I hope you pull it off. At the very least, I hope you put something together so credible that even if the administrators don't go with it, any new owners do bring the supporters in on a significant basis. LeedsCityRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: Fair point but there will be a lot of talented & knowledgeable people within our fanbase who could move this forward & the capacity to do so. The biggest challenge is getting the idea & a working group off the ground - the next stage would be to get some roles drawn up & people nominated into those roles/cast the net for specific expertise in areas where we're weak. I just feel we need to do something not sleepwalk to oblivion bimmerman, sheeponacid, IslandExile and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoetheRam Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I'd absolutely love us to be fan owned. I don't really have any expertise to offer on anything though, but happy to get involved in any way I can. Unfortunately, I agree that selling it to fellow fans, and, incredibly even the clubs own supporters Trust will prove the biggest obstacle. LeedsCityRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, LeedsCityRam said: Fair point but there will be a lot of talented & knowledgeable people within our fanbase who could move this forward & the capacity to do so. The biggest challenge is getting the idea & a working group off the ground - the next stage would be to get some roles drawn up & people nominated into those roles/cast the net for specific expertise in areas where we're weak. I love the idea and really hope it gets off the ground however: None of us have any experience of running a football club, some of us are probably not as talented and knowledgeable as we like to think and, if the fan base does really include people with the skills required, I suspect they may well already have a full time job to hold down. I genuinely wish anyone involved in such a concept the best of luck and they will all the support I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Havent we just been fan owned, look how well that has gone HorsforthRam and Bob Mash 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 What any Supporters led takeover would need is funding. If only there was a local charity who could grant such a group the initial funding, it may stand a chance of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Put me down for my share of the £2million a month! is Ronnieronald the treasurer? cosmic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curb Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 IMO the only way this could work is out of necessity, ie should the worst happen and we cease to trade we start again lower down the pyramid and grow the new club organically. id rather that didn’t happen though, although there’d be some good away days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodypecker Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said: Both@AutoWindscreens & myself have addressed this point already - really would like to bury it as a 'problem'. Let me be emphatic. We can turn RamsTrust into whatever we want. RamsTrust is currently a small group of supporters but if we decided to buy the club, we'd all end up joining RT to get a say in how the club is run, meaning it would reflect the fanbase as a whole. New people can be elected to the Board at RT & it is one member one vote. Therefore we can dilute whatever personalities have annoyed people in the past. Quite true, LeedsCityRam Trolling and cynicism has little place if fans want successful, meaningful action and effective participation. One big shake-up needed if fans really wished to revive the whole idea! Edited September 20, 2021 by Woodypecker LeedsCityRam, JoetheRam and sheeponacid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 A fan owned club might work non league or lower league, but not a this level. Germany has a good idea with fans owning a big stake in all clubs, but that’s league wide. waiting 28 days is just wasting time for a new buyer to step in. Rich84 and ColonelBlimp 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Maybe a consortium of wealthier Rams fans and lots of other individuals could put something together. The huge debts is the issue but if somehow this can be eased, the club could become self sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Boycie said: A fan owned club might work non league or lower league, but not a this level. Germany has a good idea with fans owning a big stake in all clubs, but that’s league wide. waiting 28 days is just wasting time for a new buyer to step in. Waiting 28 days is a waste of time but last time the 3 Amigos £3 within a second had control of the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Maybe a consortium of wealthier Rams fans and lots of other individuals could put something together. You are Peter Gadsby, I claim my £10 RadioactiveWaste and TheresOnlyWanChope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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