bimmerman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 would you welcome it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Van Rams Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Yani P said: nope Keen to understand why not? It seems like a viable alternative now. LeedsCityRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 (edited) Nobodies got the money for one. they’ll all fall out for two. Edited September 17, 2021 by Boycie Add the third option to the second atherstoneram, r4derby, Tamworthram and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Boycie said: Nobodies got the money for one. they’ll all fall out for two. 30 quid a year for exeter, one bloke owns 40 something percent and the trust owns 60 ish i think. appoints a chair and a board and theres a re election every summer basically, if your poo you get voted out. all done at meetings so ramstrust would like that idea. its very much capped at league one tops mind you,look at afc wimbledon Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I think it's a great idea in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 With all the soiled trousers over that signed letter that went out and then the NDA meeting, do we really think the fanbase can be sensible over something like this? Eddie, Taribo, ariotofmyown and 8 others 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Depends on perspective. If the goal if for "a DCFC to continue to exist" then yes. If the goal is for "a DCFC in the upper 2nd division/lower prem" then no. The choice is really to accept "DCFC is what the community can support, wherever that is in the football pyramid" or "DCFC as an avenue to to the riches of eglish football has the potential to be lower prem/upper championship Mr investor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 It practically and financially wouldn't work. If it was a consortium of football professionals ie the Rednaps, Lampard Rooney and any other interested parties, that might strike a chord with fans for a one time donation, to reach an obtainable buyout figure, and receive shares etc. which could be redeemed with future tickets/merchandise or something along those lines..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 After saying that - we have to do something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 I love the idea. But in the hyper-capitalistic world of football, it would probably get us no closer to being a Premier League club (if that’s the ultimate aim of Derby County) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Van Rams Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, desirelines said: I love the idea. But in the hyper-capitalistic world of football, it would probably get us no closer to being a Premier League club (if that’s the ultimate aim of Derby County) I'm starting to wonder whether that is really the aim or if the aim should be to have a sustainable club which plays good football week to week? Supporting a football club is unlike anything I can think of. It's tribal. It's a romance. It's a rollercoaster of emotions. It's the thing you have no control over yet yearn for it do the best it possibly can, and shout as loudly as you can to 'help' it do that. Ive got to the point that all I want is to be able watch Derby be competitive in the league it is in. Score goals. Play some good looking football. Show passion for badge. The current structure of the premier and English football League is so utterly broken that's its untenable to compete in the top league without a billionaire backer who wants to use it as a vanity project. This is now impacting the second tier to the point where it's getting to be the same. You can't compete without rolling the dice and spending above your means. As many others have said. Football as we know it is dying. The European Super League will go ahead at some point in the future as soon as fans realize the league pyramid we love isn't a pyramid at all and relegation will only impact those clubs who aren't being funded by billionaires. desirelines, RadioactiveWaste, angieram and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Given the lack of experience I would expect the average forum reader to have no experience of running a football club. I would suggest MM and SP are kept as unpaid advisors. We listen carefully, do the opposite, and we won't be far off StockholmRam, ariotofmyown, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 It’s a no from me on the basis on how insufferable some of the people who will get involved would become on forums such as this, Radio Derby, Twitter etc.. I just want a professional group of people, who run the club in an effective and sustainable manner, treat the employees of the club well and enable us to be competitive in the Championship. If we could grow from there and be in the mix for promotion great. G-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Nope we are too big a club and the financial reality of a club our size is mind blowing and as we know it’s premiership or bust or settle for being irrelevant like Bristol city or PNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 10 hours ago, bimmerman said: 30 quid a year for exeter, one bloke owns 40 something percent and the trust owns 60 ish i think. appoints a chair and a board and theres a re election every summer basically, if your poo you get voted out. all done at meetings so ramstrust would like that idea. its very much capped at league one tops mind you,look at afc wimbledon Great. But I want Derby County not bloody Exeter. They are doing so well Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Great. But I want Derby County not bloody Exeter. They are doing so well It's an example...the 2 clubs I'd mentioned are relatively sustainable. There's loads of examples throughout German football as well EtoileSportiveDeDerby and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 If it works for massive clubs in Germany why couldn't it work for Derby County? LeedsCityRam, 48 hours and ColonelBlimp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: If it works for massive clubs in Germany why couldn't it work for Derby County? It could work if the structure was put in place for all english clubs by legislation. On our own though, it'd be hard to see us ever being above L1 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ram1988 said: If it works for massive clubs in Germany why couldn't it work for Derby County? Cuz they're all the same, different over here BathRam72 and Rich84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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