Ambitious Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 9 points kills us. I’m going to see what the accounts fall out at, because the way I’ve read it - we are still being punished for amortisation and we have to restate the accounts. A 9 (+3) point deduction, IF our accounts prove to within P&S, is absolute baalocks. If we’ve broken P&S then just take the point deduction. We have supposedly republished our accounts, it would be nice to see what the result is… I really don’t care at this point. I just want to see the numbers. Sparkle and Andicis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 So is this going to happen or not? I can't believe we've agreed to 9. We'll never make it back. 6 and we'd have a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Ambitious said: 9 points kills us. I’m going to see what the accounts fall out at, because the way I’ve read it - we are still being punished for amortisation and we have to restate the accounts. A 9 (+3) point deduction, IF our accounts prove to within P&S, is absolute baalocks. If we’ve broken P&S then just take the point deduction. We have supposedly republished our accounts, it would be nice to see what the result is… I really don’t care at this point. I just want to see the numbers. Saying on SKY that a deal with the EFL is close……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: Mel won't personally be doing the DD that will be his financial advisors Who've proven themselves so accomplished at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Can we do a Sheff Wed and get it reduced to 4.5 on appeal? That 0.5 points is gonna be handy with a crap GD. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 9 points is ridiculous it's like the FPL are setting out to relegate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: Saying on SKY that a deal with the EFL is close……. We agree to a point deduction for amortisation, what happens if we fail P&S due to the reissued accounts? Another point deduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 “Someone” tells The Mail 9 points. We all go “no way!” The actual points is 6, we all go haha! See! mind games RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Ambitious said: We agree to a point deduction for amortisation, what happens if we fail P&S due to the reissued accounts? Another point deduction? Who knows ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Can't wait to see what's officially said. I honestly can't believe if we've breached due to adjusting the amortisation the EFL accepted for 3 years that we'd accept that. Unless Mel has something in writing from a buyer saying accept whatever penalty you get and the deal's done. He wouldn't would he .......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boycie said: “Someone” tells The Mail 9 points. We all go “no way!” The actual points is 6, we all go haha! See! mind games Unless it’s more for Steve Gibson in which case the mail say 9, Gibson says “no way” and It’s actually 12… Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Boycie said: “Someone” tells The Mail 9 points. We all go “no way!” The actual points is 6, we all go haha! See! mind games At least 6 points will leave us ahead of Forest in the table ? Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Why should we ever accept such a thing when we contend we have done nothing wrong? This has been said a hundred times on this and other threads. Here’s the thing. If we were sure of our accounting ground, we would file the final accounts with companies house, we would file our P&S statements with the EFL and we would say: these are compliant, you can have no complaint We have not done that. So is it not clear that we are in a grey area (yet another one), and that we are not completely sure of our ground ?? atherstoneram and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ambitious said: We agree to a point deduction for amortisation, what happens if we fail P&S due to the reissued accounts? Another point deduction? I can't imagine we would agree to a deal of a points deduction that didn't wipe the slate clean. Tamworthram and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: If (and it's a very big if) the rumours of a 9 points plus 3 more suspended are true, then it makes no sense. "Negotiating" such a high punishment means the EFL know they're on dodgy ground and cannot simply impose it. Why should we ever accept such a thing when we contend we have done nothing wrong? The only reason I can think of, is that the decision is from Mel's potential buyers, who want a line drawn and the thing over and done with. Maybe they think, come January, they can buy their way out of trouble. But if that is the case, Mel needs to be a hell of a lot more confident in his buyers than the recent Sheik or Spanish boxer fiascos. And I'm not currently sufficiently confident in Mel that he's done sufficient (or any) due diligence. That is not my understanding. The potential new buyer has proven his worth submitting a Northern Rock bank statement, and his ID has been cross-checked against his Blockbuster Video card. Carl Sagan and Chester40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Sky sports reporting what Daily mail are saying - could be all a nonsense if we agree to any point deduction then we are in bigger trouble because we can’t score many goals and those folks thinking we will be ok when Belick is back are delusional because we will be selling him at the first opportunity especially with a half decent offer for a bloke with 2 knee ligament injuries on big wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, i-Ram said: That is not my understanding. The potential new buyer has proven his worth submitting a Northern Rock bank statement, and his ID has been cross-checked against his Blockbuster Video card. Exclusive! New takeover guy Carl Sagan and i-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just out of interest. Does anyone know what free transfers are out there? Just trying to think of who we could potentially bring in that might make a difference. Only 2 I can think of is Robbie Brady and Andy Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 -6 or -9 points and we stay up. We have a good team and good team spirit. With Bielik and Colin back we will be ok. If we get taken over then even betterish. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 minute ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Just out of interest. Does anyone know what free transfers are out there? Just trying to think of who we could potentially bring in that might make a difference. Only 2 I can think of is Robbie Brady and Andy Carroll Charlie George would stand more chance of scoring than most of our squad and he's 70. Amberram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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