Jimbo Ram Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Eddie said: Rooney is 'box office' - bums on seats and/or press exposure. Just about every club outside the premier league (and half of them in it) would be prepared to gamble on such a name, novice or not. Don’t think so, he hasn’t done anything yet ? Ramarena, Eddie and MickD 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Don’t think so, he hasn’t done anything yet ? I'll respond with a (hopeful) film quote by Wayne's namesake Mickey - "You always pass failure on the way to success". Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Eddie said: Rooney is 'box office' - bums on seats and/or press exposure. Just about every club outside the premier league (and half of them in it) would be prepared to gamble on such a name, novice or not. He could struggle to get another managerial job at a decent championship club after he finishes at DCFC. Jimbo Ram, Ramarena and MickD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Wayne has had an unbelievable amount of experience in one season. He has weathered it well imo. archram and Rammeister 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 hours ago, europia said: He could struggle to get another managerial job at a decent championship club after he finishes at DCFC. "Another managerial job at a decent championship club"? When was his first, because 'decent' doesn't appear in the lexicon of the clusterfark of a club currently employing him as boss. Under the current circumstances, I think I'll give him a go for a bit longer yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Maxwell Baxter said: The aren't many who have won so much and had years being managed by arguable the best in the business ever. your right. only steve bruce paul ince mark hughes jaap stam g. neville p. neville paul scholes mark robbins r. wellens d. fergie bryan robson mike phelan roy keane gordon strachan ryan giggs ole g s l. blanc Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Alex Neil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Baxter Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ram-a-lama fa fa fa said: your right. only steve bruce paul ince mark hughes jaap stam g. neville p. neville paul scholes mark robbins r. wellens d. fergie bryan robson mike phelan roy keane gordon strachan ryan giggs ole g s l. blanc Great response, Looking at that list it really is remarkable how many top class players can't hack it in management. Yet many lesser players can make it in management, I wonder if a lack of success as a player makes you more passionate to succeed as a manager? However most of them on that list did manage in the top flight and I'll be more than happy to see Rooney manage Derby in the top flight. And a few of them did have half descent management careers. In the current climate Derby find themselves having Rooney as the manager is a plus for me. I can't image anyone being interested in signing for Derby right now other than the Rooney factor Edited August 21, 2021 by Maxwell Baxter Ram-a-lama fa fa fa, Derby blood and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell Baxter Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Maxwell Baxter said: And a few of them did have half descent management careers. done it again ? meant to say a few had a half decent career, but a few did have a descent career. Edited August 21, 2021 by Maxwell Baxter Van der MoodHoover 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 People go on about negative Derby fans...but he has literally just won one game and suddenly we don't need any experience and he is drawing comparisons with an early Alex Ferguson! I'm very cautious and I hope short term a corner has been turned but I don't see any medium term future that doesn't end badly. However, if he can keep some upward trajectory and us lower to mid-table for the season then that's perfectly acceptable to me. Preferably we get taken over and a fresh start includes a new manager but no point waiting around and sulking for that to happen. Personally I don't see him as a Fergie-type in a million years...but maybe as a man who leads not with words but by attitude, personal performance and sheer desire /will to win, so if he can drag us short term to a better place like an early Roy Keane or Bryan Robson then I can get behind that. Ramarena, Carl Sagan and Jimbo Ram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 20/08/2021 at 13:28, Jimbo Ram said: Who scored our winning goal? We drew with Salford after 90 mins. And that’s when the game ended right? There wasn’t anything else after that..??? try telling that to Italy….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 21/08/2021 at 01:00, Eddie said: "Another managerial job at a decent championship club"? When was his first, because 'decent' doesn't appear in the lexicon of the clusterfark of a club currently employing him as boss. Under the current circumstances, I think I'll give him a go for a bit longer yet. Yes, exactly why I correctly wrote: "another managerial job at a decent championship" rather than "a managerial job at another decent championship club" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Wayne is going to see it through with us. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Hope Rooney surprises me but I'd much rather we had Chris Wilder. Deej, europia, Jimbo Ram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: Hope Rooney surprises me but I'd much rather we had Chris Wilder. I'd rather have gene wilder than Rooney.... i-Ram, Ramarena, Zag zig and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 There is not a manager who would touch the Derby job atm. Wayne Rooney is the best by a distance who we could realistically have. I see people saying judge Rooney after 10/15 games. I say judge Rooney when he can move freely in the transfer market and given a fair chance. The restrictions are abysmal for any manager to work under. The likes of Jagielka and Morrison would not be here if it wasnt for Rooney. Hes a winner. The Scarlet Pimpernel and ossieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: There is not a manager who would touch the Derby job atm. Wayne Rooney is the best by a distance who we could realistically have. I see people saying judge Rooney after 10/15 games. I say judge Rooney when he can move freely in the transfer market and given a fair chance. The restrictions are abysmal for any manager to work under. The likes of Jagielka and Morrison would not be here if it wasnt for Rooney. Hes a winner. We don’t know that do we. I bet plenty would apply if the job became available…….. Ramarena, europia and Deej 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: There is not a manager who would touch the Derby job atm. Wayne Rooney is the best by a distance who we could realistically have. I see people saying judge Rooney after 10/15 games. I say judge Rooney when he can move freely in the transfer market and given a fair chance. The restrictions are abysmal for any manager to work under. The likes of Jagielka and Morrison would not be here if it wasnt for Rooney. Hes a winner. Where is the evidence that no-one would touch the Derby job at the moment and Rooney is the best man for the job? They are both assumptions which can’t be tested while the job is unavailable. By the same token, I could say if Rooney left tomorrow, there would be tens of managers lining up to take on the challenge of reviving a club like ours. Managers will always be judged come what may, and you can only take it as it comes. The circumstances will never be optimal, so why wait to judge Rooney? Rooney has been given a more than fair chance if you consider he’s not even officially qualified to do the job. Backing the manager is fine, but we came within a whisker of relegation whilst playing uninspiring football and we have won three league games since the spring. You can’t be surprised that some fans will still have reservations over the manager, surely? This is modern football and managers are scrutinised more fiercely than ever. europia, Zag zig, Ramarena and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Where is the evidence that no-one would touch the Derby job at the moment and Rooney is the best man for the job? They are both assumptions which can’t be tested while the job is unavailable. By the same token, I could say if Rooney left tomorrow, there would be tens of managers lining up to take on the challenge of reviving a club like ours. Managers will always be judged come what may, and you can only take it as it comes. The circumstances will never be optimal, so why wait to judge Rooney? Rooney has been given a more than fair chance if you consider he’s not even officially qualified to do the job. Backing the manager is fine, but we came within a whisker of relegation whilst playing uninspiring football and we have won three league games since the spring. You can’t be surprised that some fans will still have reservations over the manager, surely? This is modern football and managers are scrutinised more fiercely than ever. Honestly, nothing personal meant by this Jourdan but when you write about Derby you really depress me! Gisby, i-Ram, RoyMac5 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: We don’t know that do we. I bet plenty would apply if the job became available…….. You may get down and outers but in terms of anything better than Rooney theres no chance. Jimbo Ram, Deej and RoyMac5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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