Inverurie Ram Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 🖤 Love Paul Warne 🖤 Comrade 86 and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 “It’s a results business Paul” David Graham Brown and europia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 🖤 Chris Wilder loves Paul Warne 🖤 🖤 Knows Derby are Massive 🖤 r_wilcockson and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Near the top, but he's behind Mac1, Rosenior, and Ted Magner. I'm not counting Lowe or Hutchings who managed us for 1 game and won. To be fair, Magner only managed 11 games, most of which were wartime competitions, and Rosenior 12 games is a limited sample compared to Warne's 106 games (his ppg will almost certainly come down this season of course). If you include Mac's second spell, I think his win % and ppg is just under Warne's? (Clough, Mackay and Smith mostly managed in the top division of course) Edited September 22 by Crewton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeedsCityRam Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 29 minutes ago, maxjam said: First time we've had a manager getting to his 2nd anniversary at Derby since Nigel Clough in January 2011. Yesterday's game also saw Warne enter the top 10 for most Derby games managed post-war. Probably an indictment on how short managerial careers are these days but he's also the 19th longest serving manager in the top 4 divisions. Whatever your views on Warne, it is good value for the club him getting past 50% of his contract. The manager pay outs at clubs like Stoke & Hull must be ruinous & that's even before considering the inevitable upheaval as new managers start bringing in their own backroom staff & players to suit their particular style of play. Inverurie Ram, angieram and Crewton 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeedsCityRam said: ...Probably an indictment on how short managerial careers are these days but he's also the 19th longest serving manager in the top 4 divisions. Whatever your views on Warne, it is good value for the club him getting past 50% of his contract... Interesting him being level on games with George Burley? For comparison from Wiki. "...Derby County's relegation saw the club enter a serious financial crisis, which forced them to sell many key players. Gregory was later suspended from his managerial duties over alleged misconduct and former Ipswich Town boss George Burley was brought in. The club was put into receivership then sold in October 2003 for £3 to a group led by Jeremy Keith. After finishing 20th in the 2003–04 season, a dramatic improvement in the 2004–05 season saw Derby finish fourth in the Championship, qualifying for a promotion play-off spot, though they lost in the semi-finals to Preston North End. Soon afterwards, Burley resigned citing differences between himself and the board... ...In 2003, Burley became interim manager of Derby County while permanent manager John Gregory was suspended. Burley managed to halt Derby's alarming slide towards the relegation zone of the First Division (just one season after relegation from the Premier League) and kept the club up comfortably. Burley was then appointed manager permanently when Gregory was sacked. The following season (2003–04) was often a struggle, with Derby actually finishing two places lower than the season before, but there were signs of improvement. This showed through in the 2004–05 season when, despite spending no money on new players, Burley transformed Derby from relegation contenders to a fourth-place finish and play-off semi-finalists. However, things were not as happy as they seemed on the surface with Burley's relationship with director of football Murdo Mackay and the club's board (who sold star player Tom Huddlestone without informing Burley) being very strained. After days of speculation and mudslinging, Burley announced his resignation from Derby in June 2005." Edited September 22 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 2 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said: First time we've had a manager getting to his 2nd anniversary at Derby since Nigel Clough in January 2011. Yesterday's game also saw Warne enter the top 10 for most Derby games managed post-war. Probably an indictment on how short managerial careers are these days but he's also the 19th longest serving manager in the top 4 divisions. Whatever your views on Warne, it is good value for the club him getting past 50% of his contract. The manager pay outs at clubs like Stoke & Hull must be ruinous & that's even before considering the inevitable upheaval as new managers start bringing in their own backroom staff & players to suit their particular style of play. Putting an extremely cynical slant on matters (who, me 😏) could we have afforded to have got rid of Warne anyway being on a 4 year contract? So his potential longevity as our manager will have always be tied to his performance but also the clubs ability or willingness to absorb any potential severance payments. europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Interesting him being level on games with George Burley? For comparison from Wiki. "...Derby County's relegation saw the club enter a serious financial crisis, which forced them to sell many key players. Gregory was later suspended from his managerial duties over alleged misconduct and former Ipswich Town boss George Burley was brought in. The club was put into receivership then sold in October 2003 for £3 to a group led by Jeremy Keith. After finishing 20th in the 2003–04 season, a dramatic improvement in the 2004–05 season saw Derby finish fourth in the Championship, qualifying for a promotion play-off spot, though they lost in the semi-finals to Preston North End. Soon afterwards, Burley resigned citing differences between himself and the board... ...In 2003, Burley became interim manager of Derby County while permanent manager John Gregory was suspended. Burley managed to halt Derby's alarming slide towards the relegation zone of the First Division (just one season after relegation from the Premier League) and kept the club up comfortably. Burley was then appointed manager permanently when Gregory was sacked. The following season (2003–04) was often a struggle, with Derby actually finishing two places lower than the season before, but there were signs of improvement. This showed through in the 2004–05 season when, despite spending no money on new players, Burley transformed Derby from relegation contenders to a fourth-place finish and play-off semi-finalists. However, things were not as happy as they seemed on the surface with Burley's relationship with director of football Murdo Mackay and the club's board (who sold star player Tom Huddlestone without informing Burley) being very strained. After days of speculation and mudslinging, Burley announced his resignation from Derby in June 2005." Suspect its the EFL Trophy matches that have brought him level with Burley who had 2 full seasons & a couple of months at end of 2002/03 season. 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Putting an extremely cynical slant on matters (who, me 😏) could we have afforded to have got rid of Warne anyway being on a 4 year contract? So his potential longevity as our manager will have always be tied to his performance but also the clubs ability or willingness to absorb any potential severance payments. Certainly that was the main argument against him leaving last autumn after Stevenage/Shrewsbury games but I think the main factor in him staying was Clowes' strong belief that Warne would get it right & take us up. Being a savvy businessman, I'd be surprised if he hadn't budgeted for things going wrong though & hence a severance could probably have been funded but to the likely detriment of the playing budget and/or Academy investment. Fair to say the club is in a stronger position now though & I'd be in no rush to start new contract talks until the end of the season at least (when Warne would still have 16/17 months left in any case). Inverurie Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I don’t think there were any factors because I don’t think the question of him leaving or staying etc was ever considered or asked within the club. I think our saviour of our club had every faith in Paul Warne when he joined our club and he’s had all the very best of faith in Paul Warne ever since. 🖤 David Clowes 🖤 🖤 Paul Warne 🖤 🖤 Derby County 🖤 LeedsCityRam, Comrade 86 and Premier ram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 🖤 Paul Warne 🖤 Great from everyone at Derby County today. Effort, desire, hunger, passion, fight, from players, fans, and the rest of the world can watch on Sky TV how Norwich City were gifted 2 free false goals by default, poor official decision making and all the rest. 🖤 Rams 🐏 🖤 …….and ermmmn plus the Warne family love Norwich City……🟡 🟢 So at least someone’s happy. Crewton, Premier ram and kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 This thread has the feel of an old person's Facebook timeline. Day, Chester40, i-Ram and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Thought Paul Warne was pure class post-match today. He must have been seething inside. Def the best of him. JJs dms, RamontheMoor, S8TY and 13 others 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 Liked the way Warne came and clapped the South Stand (possibly other stands too) at the final whistle he seemed to be genuinely appreciative of people staying and applauding in defeat. Crewton, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong, Kathcairns and 4 others 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 For the media he suggested he was happy with the performance. In reality he was probably far from happy. Expect most supporters would be disappointed with a manager who thought shipping in 3 goals and losing at home was OK. Kathcairns, Reggie Greenwood, r_wilcockson and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 7 minutes ago, europia said: For the media he suggested he was happy with the performance. In reality he was probably far from happy. Expect most supporters would be disappointed with a manager who thought shipping in 3 goals and losing at home was OK. So he said he was happy with the performance, and you've just stated the result? There's a difference between the two, and as you'll know it's not as quite as black and white as they scored 3 and we scored 2. Horrendous decisions from the officials a minute before half-time changes the whole make-up of the match, and I think we held up pretty well when he could've just felt sorry for the injustice we suffered. Crewton, Zag zig, FlyBritishMidland and 8 others 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 15 minutes ago, europia said: For the media he suggested he was happy with the performance. In reality he was probably far from happy. Expect most supporters would be disappointed with a manager who thought shipping in 3 goals and losing at home was OK. I was ok with the performance Reggie Greenwood, Tamworthram, r_wilcockson and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 42 minutes ago, europia said: For the media he suggested he was happy with the performance. In reality he was probably far from happy. Expect most supporters would be disappointed with a manager who thought shipping in 3 goals and losing at home was OK. Yeah, I imagine he'll be telling them to kick the ball into the stands even when it looks out, though the yellow cards could be a nuisance. Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted September 28 Share Posted September 28 31 minutes ago, Kernow said: So he said he was happy with the performance, and you've just stated the result? There's a difference between the two, and as you'll know it's not as quite as black and white as they scored 3 and we scored 2. Horrendous decisions from the officials a minute before half-time changes the whole make-up of the match, and I think we held up pretty well when he could've just felt sorry for the injustice we suffered. Pretty certain to add to all of that, he said he was proud, he made his usual reference to “gassed out”, whilst purists could argue it’s not about gassing out, maybe wanting a better style of football, his point was every player gave their all and most fans are seeing that this season, that’s why the players are being applauded for their efforts, even when losing. He’s created that strong bond between them, even the newcomers and team work ethic; they’re giving their all regardless of any shortcomings, for that he’s every right to be proud. Tamworthram, sunnyhill60, Reggie Greenwood and 9 others 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 9 hours ago, trappatoni said: Liked the way Warne came and clapped the South Stand (possibly other stands too) at the final whistle he seemed to be genuinely appreciative of people staying and applauding in defeat. Came to the north stand as well,but usually does after all the games. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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