Stive Pesley Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, David said: If anyone was to stop watching a football programme over one man's political views, wouldn't be a huge lost. Let's be honest, it would take a mass exodus to have any serious impact. It's more about when the advertisers start to put pressure on them. Didn't you ban swearing on here because of advertisers? Were you just pandering to cancel culture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: It's more about when the advertisers start to put pressure on them. Didn't you ban swearing on here because of advertisers? Were you just pandering to cancel culture? Google's terms were not excessive swearing, so we made the decision to blanket ban from the start. Advertisers do have too much power, needs to be a huge push back and remove some of that control they have now. Let's not forget this is down to social media mass petitioning companies to distance themselves. Crazy world. Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 BBC going to war with their two biggest stars in the same day. Lineker and Attenborough. Astonishing behaviour. Seems like the culture wars are going to get real in the next few weeks. Wonder who will be next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I hope tomorrow's show concentrates on, and praises exclusively, the contributions of right wingers to the games. That'll get the Tories back on side. ariotofmyown, Steve How Hard?, therealhantsram and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Questions we should be asking, are things like why some stars are allowed to express political views but others aren't. This for example. Grumpy Git, Reggie Greenwood, ariotofmyown and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, Rev said: I hope tomorrow's show concentrates on, and praises exclusively, the contributions of right whingers to the games. That'll get the Tories back on side. Shearer and Murphy to continue then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cstand Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Alex Scott it is then ? Every cloud has a silver lining. Its just the way she talks as well. I could just listen to her all day everyday to everything she says. ? Edited March 10, 2023 by cstand Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, David said: Just gets better and better. Could they make this permanent? Indyram, cstand, LittleEatonRam and 4 others 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 How you supposed to know what a good goal looks like now? LittleEatonRam, i-Ram, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 In all seriousness, whoever goes on MOTD to present and be a pundit will get hammered on social media tomorrow night now. This solidarity has guaranteed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I doubt his point could’ve been proved any better if he tried therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, David said: Without turning this into another left v right borefest, Gary Lineker is stepping back from his presenting duties on MOTD following the Nazi tweet. I'm not entirely sure why there is so much controversy, comes down to this for me, if it's within his contract to abide by impartiality rules and refrain from taking sides on politic issues, that is a breach of contract, sack him. If there is nothing in the contract preventing him, let the bloke crack on. Many people face certain rules when it comes to social media, I know of two women that work within child services for North East Lincolnshire Council, they are not allowed to have profiles with their full names so have opted for first and middle names only. It's in the employment terms they agreed to. I agree the other thing is if he had said it while presenting for the BBC that would be wrong but I’m sure he can say what he wants in his own time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: No offence but that's a weird thing to say as companies do have a right to understand what their employees are saying on social media if those comments can be linked back to the employer and would put the same employer in a bad light. There are many, many, employment cases where employees have been found to be fairly dismissed for doing exactly that. Personally I know of a guy whom I worked with whom was dismissed for making perceived racist comments on Facebook but they could be linked back to their employer as the person posted their employer name on their Facebook page. This was then passed onto their employer by a disgruntled Facebook member, disciplinary convened m summarily dismissed. That's a fair point. Of course no one wants to be associated with someone who would discriminate based solely on race, but "perceived racist" is worryingly vague to me. All of this is very subjective and what pushes me towards free speech absolutism is that often the people tasked with judging these cases don't seem to make very sensible decisions. Lineker's case is a great example. As much as I dislike the guy the fact that he's been stepped down from his job because he disagreed publicly with a government position is quite frightening. Miggins, Tyler Durden, Reggie Greenwood and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, David said: I'm not entirely sure why there is so much controversy, comes down to this for me, if it's within his contract to abide by impartiality rules and refrain from taking sides on politic issues, that is a breach of contract, sack him. If there is nothing in the contract preventing him, let the bloke crack on. It seems that straightforward to me too. Maybe we're missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, David said: In all seriousness, whoever goes on MOTD to present and be a pundit will get hammered on social media tomorrow night now. This solidarity has guaranteed it. You're absolutely right. No other big-name freelance presenters will touch it. It'll end up being some junior BBC salaried presenter who needs a job too much to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: I agree the other thing is if he had said it while presenting for the BBC that would be wrong but I’m sure he can say what he wants in his own time. I made the point earlier, there is no difference in UK employment law in saying a comment in work time or outside of work if in either circumstances it contravenes the employers values or standards, or could be seen to compromise the integrity of the employer if it is easily linked back to them. Edited March 10, 2023 by Tyler Durden Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, archram said: Someone should tell the BBC football commentators they’re supposed to be impartial! And tell EFL refs the same while they’re at it archram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: You're absolutely right. No other big-name freelance presenters will touch it. It'll end up being some junior BBC salaried presenter who needs a job too much to say no. Step forward Jemaine Jenas. Day, cstand, Alph and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Not watched MOTD regularly for years it’s too much about the presenters today and not enough about the football. Would be sorry to see Ian Wright go especially for the respect he shows to Mr Pigden. It’s one of my all time favourite YouTube videos. Edited March 10, 2023 by cstand 1967Ram, Grumpy Git, therealhantsram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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