TuffLuff Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 If I’m being critical, based on tonight I’m not sure ‘Warneball’ suits playing higher league opposition because you aren’t positionally disciplined enough. Not that I don’t like his ideas and how he sees football, I’m just not sure it works against a better opposition Steve How Hard?, May Contain Nuts and sage 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I completely agree. This was nothing to do with West ham. The easy thing to say is that the premier League quality showed except it didn't. A couple of well taken goals but they weren't absolutely fantastic. They just did enough. We didn't put them under anywhere near enough pressure or cause them any problems. We didn't get at them or press like we do other teams. That's nothing to do with the opposition, that's on us. We weren't good enough tonight and got beat. But it wasn't anything to do with how good West ham were. They played through our press with relative ease. Just as you would expect them to do. I just thought we weren't very good in the final third. We've had games like that in league one and the opposition have gifted us chances. West ham didn't. It's no biggie and we weren't especially bad Edited January 30, 2023 by Blondest Goat . SKRam, i-Ram, vonwright and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, KBB said: On to the proper games on Saturday. Poor performance but no disgrace in going out to a prem team and not playing your best. Let's not dig out players or managers for this one game. Saying it's a poor performance where we lacked our usual intensity isn't digging out the players and the manager. It's how many of us saw the game. I'm disappointed but we move. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorsforthRam Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 WH did have another gear at least. However, I think we really missed McGoldrick’s hold up play. Played it neatly at times, just couldn’t make it stick in the final third. Warne and the team will learn from this. Rammy03 and SKRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Kokosnuss said: It more that everything good about our own play this season was sorely lacking and they never had to get out of neutral let alone first gear. I appreciate the frustration in that, but West Ham didn’t play poorly. They scored early in both halves and didn’t need to do anything more than that. They managed the game like a professional top level side and let us tire ourselves out by trying to get back in to the game. If we got the early goal, it would’ve been an entirely situation, unfortunately that’s the way it goes. We beat teams in our league comfortably, today we got beaten comfortably. If that game was against someone like Sheffield Wednesday or Bolton, I’d be more concerned, but for now I’m not disheartened. May Contain Nuts, Dordogne-Ram, Miggins and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Rammy03 said: Saying it's a poor performance where we lacked our usual intensity isn't digging out the players and the manager. It's how many of us saw the game. I'm disappointed but we move. Exactly. Warranted criticism is fine and expected. Some won't be so balanced with their analysis. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: Felt like we were all saving ourselves for the league. Me included My thoughts too After they scored their 1st, We just looked flat, Not going to heap more criticism on Collins...Up against better players and being there on his own, Game over at 0-2 WHU knocking the ball about us chasing it, They let us play in front of them as we had nowt they should fear. Not displeased no shame...Roll on Saturday SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Blondest Goat said: They played through our press with relative ease. Just as you would expect them to do. I just thought we weren't very good in the final third. We've had games like that in league one and the opposition have gifted us chances. West ham didn't. The opposition have gifted us chances in League one because we press the life out of them. We didn't get near West ham tonight. We just looked a bit off it. A lackluster performance which was compounded by goals conceded at bad times in the game. We huffed and puffed but couldn't muster anything of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: You know we made it easy for them which was my entire point which it seems you purposely overlooked to try and undertake some petty points scoring. Anyway goodnight all Top flouncing. I guess we'll see you again when we next lose. Archied and SKRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: If I’m being critical, based on tonight I’m not sure ‘Warneball’ suits playing higher league opposition because you aren’t positionally disciplined enough. Not that I don’t like his ideas and how he sees football, I’m just not sure it works against a better opposition Alternatively: the same system with better (in some cases younger) players could work at a higher level very well. But with these players, against a decent Premier League team with a lot of pace and guile... it might be a struggle. May Contain Nuts, Sparkle, FlyBritishMidland and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 “Bird has damaged his groin which is a big blow for us” Paul Warne on ITV just now ? 48 hours, strawhillram, Quagga and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just felt we were a little naive. From early on it was clear, yellow cards were only given on artistic merit, and the little professional blocks, shoves etc. the ref wasn't interested in. We're used to having more time on the ball and playing teams with less skill, and so up against a team that knows how to subtly block people or pull them back, and then break, it made it really difficult. I think we'd have done better if we'd been a bit more physical, equally with that ref, and the rolling about skills on display, we could been easily down to 10 men. I expected more of a context but not super downhearted and Cashin coming back reminded us of what we're missing. Roberts is a good substitute for Sibley but Davies' legs have gone. Hopefully Bird is okay and we carry on in the League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: “Bird has damaged his groin which is a big blow for us” Paul Warne on ITV just now ? Bugger. What’s that, a month at least? If we don’t bring anyone else in then it’s going to be Rooney or Thompson with big boots to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: If I’m being critical, based on tonight I’m not sure ‘Warneball’ suits playing higher league opposition because you aren’t positionally disciplined enough. Not that I don’t like his ideas and how he sees football, I’m just not sure it works against a better opposition Agree with this tbh and I know Rotherham have a very low budget but makes you wonder if this is why he’s always struggled coming up to the championship and been relegated or maybe more to do with budgets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kernow said: I’m not sure if you’re missing the point intentionally or not. Of course there was a chance we could win tonight, I just don’t get the huge amount of negativity when we don’t win. The reality is we would never be expected to win tonight, if we pulled out a performance and got the win then great, but I’m not going to get the razor blades out because we were outplayed at home to a PL side and lost 2-0. My mate asked me if we were going to win. It's possible I replied but in reality, doubtful. I thought we lacked a bit of fluidity but some (most?) of that is because we were up against class players. Bowen. Antonio. Soucek. Benrahma et al. Always disappointed with a loss but not much for this one. Promotion is the focus not burning out trying to beat the likes of West Ham or Man Utd. Edited January 30, 2023 by BucksRam Caerphilly Ram, SKRam and Kernow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: If I’m being critical, based on tonight I’m not sure ‘Warneball’ suits playing higher league opposition because you aren’t positionally disciplined enough. Not that I don’t like his ideas and how he sees football, I’m just not sure it works against a better opposition Not sure you can judge anything based on tonight. I think our players approached it the same way the manager did, give it a go but the league is our focus. It was flat. I never sensed we believed we would win, total contrast to the league. We didn't disgrace ourselves, just didn't do ourselves justice. Rammy03, RoyMac5, TuffLuff and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Thought we were alright, on another day Barks does better with his chances, and someone gets on the end of one of our crosses. Big difference was that Prem fitness, you don't get anywhere near as much time on the ball in the middle, and they were more than a few paces quicker than Foz and Davies up top. We go again ? SKRam and Caerphilly Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kernow said: Bugger. What’s that, a month at least? If we don’t bring anyone else in then it’s going to be Rooney or Thompson with big boots to fill. We could possibly go with Rooney at right back and Smith in midfield too. Big blow to lose Max either way. Edited January 30, 2023 by Steve How Hard? Caerphilly Ram and Patrick Rams 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Just now, Kernow said: Bugger. What’s that, a month at least? If we don’t bring anyone else in then it’s going to be Rooney or Thompson with big boots to fill. I think it’ll be 2-3 weeks minimum, but would love to be wrong and it only be a slight tweak. Rooney or Smith in as a defensive midfielder alongside Hourihane and Knight with those two tasked to create etc? Time for Warne to earn his bread, have we got anyone spare for them to repurpose like has been successfully done with Sibley and Fozzy? I suppose Sibley could be the answer as Roberts has been decent the last few games, keep Roberts in the back 4 with Fozzy, Cashin and Smith then a midfield 3 of Hourihane, Sibley and Knight ? Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: “Bird has damaged his groin which is a big blow for us” Paul Warne on ITV just now ? Big loss but time for Rooney to shine! Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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