Carl Sagan Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On the Shrewsbury forum they're recalling a Cup Game from 50 years ago. Oh for this Derby team now! 50 years ago, we lost 2-0 to this team in an F.A. Cup tie at the Baseball Ground. Kevin Hector scored both the goals, and we fielded my favourite forward line of all time - Roberts, Andrews, Wood, Groves. I was there. Colin Boulton Ron Webster Roy McFarland Colin Todd John Robson Alan Durban Archie Gemmill John McGovern Alan Hinton Kevin Hector John O'Hare RadioactiveWaste, DesertRam and Ellafella 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Ambitious said: Plenty - Luke Plange at the back end of last season. Tom Lawrence, at different periods in his Derby career, Lee Buchanan, Martyn Waghorn, Kamil Jozwiak - not to mention Jason Knight and Max Bird both went through a rough patch in the 20/21 season but were still afforded more opportunities than Sibley. I think you can add Shinnie to that last. He had a fair few streaks of looking pretty shaky. Same with Morrison too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: On the Shrewsbury forum they're recalling a Cup Game from 50 years ago. Oh for this Derby team now! 50 years ago, we lost 2-0 to this team in an F.A. Cup tie at the Baseball Ground. Kevin Hector scored both the goals, and we fielded my favourite forward line of all time - Roberts, Andrews, Wood, Groves. I was there. Colin Boulton Ron Webster Roy McFarland Colin Todd John Robson Alan Durban Archie Gemmill John McGovern Alan Hinton Kevin Hector John O'Hare Similar quality team to what we will be putting out on Tuesday then... ? Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: On the Shrewsbury forum they're recalling a Cup Game from 50 years ago. Oh for this Derby team now! 50 years ago, we lost 2-0 to this team in an F.A. Cup tie at the Baseball Ground. Kevin Hector scored both the goals, and we fielded my favourite forward line of all time - Roberts, Andrews, Wood, Groves. I was there. Colin Boulton Ron Webster Roy McFarland Colin Todd John Robson Alan Durban Archie Gemmill John McGovern Alan Hinton Kevin Hector John O'Hare Back in the day when there was no speculation on team selection, it was just this one. Ellafella and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex Ram Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 With Sibley, I’d like to think that the manager takes into account tactics when deciding the line up. It isn’t all down to how well he played the game before. My view, having watched the Barnsley game back, is that Sibley doesn’t offer as much defensively as Smith. His press is OK, and he has a knack for stealing the ball out a players blind spot (particularly late in the game). But Sibley often takes his eye off his man and follows the ball, leaving himself marking fresh air or in the middle of a triangle chasing the ball. He used to deal with that by jumping into rash tackles, which (credit to him) he seems to have changed this season. When we’re expected to dominate the ball, I would say that’s a sacrifice worth making to get Sibley’s penetration skills in the side (keep it clean, please). That basically makes him favourite to start in most home games, and also away from home where the opposition are expected to sit in for a draw. I think Shrewsbury fit that bill- so for me, he starts. Counter argument- Rosie has been very vocal about rotation and fresh legs. The Carabao R2 game means we now play Sat/Tues/Sat/Tues/Sat, so expect changes. Counter counter argument- Rosie (like Rooney before him) has form for saying they won’t change a winning side unless they really have to. Heavens to Betsy, it’s a minefield, isn’t it?! Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 41 minutes ago, Anag Ram said: Okay on the ground but when the right winger pings over a cross to the back post and we are relying on Dicky Mint to nod it away, we might be in trouble. I believe he's taller than Nathan Byrne ? David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 15, 2022 Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Srg said: Can you give an example of when Sibley has had 6-7 bad games in a row? Just providing the stats... 19/20 - Started 9 in a row, coming off the bench for the 10th game. 5 goals and 2 assists. 20/21 - Started 2 of the first 3. - Took until the 14th game to get another start. - Most starts in a row was just 3, all in different positions (he scored coming off the bench the game before) 21/22 - Started 7 of the first 9 (losing just 2). - 90 minutes over the next 5 games, then hauled off at half time in the 6th. - 27 minutes over the next 13 games. - 1 start over the next 5 games, then hauled off at half time in the 6th again. - 23 minutes over the next 10 games - Didn't get to start another until the final day of the season. Ambitious, Grimbeard, Jimbo Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, Big Bad Bob said: I believe he's taller than Nathan Byrne ? Taller yes but not with the same leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, SamUltraRam said: Just spoken to a Wycombe fan work colleague who was at the Wycombe Shrewsbury game on Saturday His opinion on Shrewsbury - an appalling team who just sit behind the ball, pack defence and who went down at every opportunity feigning injury and wasting time - he predicts a win for us. I however think this game and Saturday will tell us a lot about how we cope with such teams. A good week of results and I think we've come through the difficult period of our players gelling with each other and finally getting their match fitness sorted COYR Blimey - you’re right. See attached stats from Wycombe v Shrewsbury. Truly a mugging if ever there was one. Wonder how LR will approach this one? angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Foreveram said: Back in the day when there was no speculation on team selection, it was just this one. I could rattle them off rote. So often the same team… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Davies and Chester still out for tomorrow according to the DET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Just providing the stats... 19/20 - Started 9 in a row, coming off the bench for the 10th game. 5 goals and 2 assists. 20/21 - Started 2 of the first 3. - Took until the 14th game to get another start. - Most starts in a row was just 3, all in different positions (he scored coming off the bench the game before) 21/22 - Started 7 of the first 9 (losing just 2). - 90 minutes over the next 5 games, then hauled off at half time in the 6th. - 27 minutes over the next 13 games. - 1 start over the next 5 games, then hauled off at half time in the 6th again. - 23 minutes over the next 10 games - Didn't get to start another until the final day of the season. Makes it look worse when you write it out. Travesty he wasn't used more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Blimey - you’re right. See attached stats from Wycombe v Shrewsbury. Truly a mugging if ever there was one. Wonder how LR will approach this one? The pass accuracy suggests Shrewsbury are a very direct side. That or they are just crap at passing. Comrade 86, Ellafella and Old Spalding Ram 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Streaming in the UK on RamsTV. cstand and Ellafella 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: The pass accuracy suggests Shrewsbury are a very direct side. That or they are just crap at passing. This sort of details the trends in League One - Shrewsbury make the least passes per sequence in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ambitious said: This sort of details the trends in League One - Shrewsbury make the least passes per sequence in the league. Going to be a fun evening for Cashin again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Spalding Ram Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: The pass accuracy suggests Shrewsbury are a very direct side. That or they are just crap at passing. 49% pass accuracy….. ..that’s about on par for a Sunday morning Derby Taverners League 2 team in the mid 80s ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: The pass accuracy suggests Shrewsbury are a very direct side. As @ambitious said above, incredibly direct. Edited August 15, 2022 by Jubbs Showed data someone had already provided!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistaston Ram Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) Did a quick reccy of ground location, while passing through Shrewsbury last week. The ground is pretty much tucked away behind a Lidl with minimal sign posting. Finding Lidl is a lot easier! Strange banner at the entrance which read 'Breathe on 'em Salop'. Watch out for locals with halitosis to those travelling on Tuesday. Edited August 15, 2022 by Wistaston Ram IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 The fact that they make Wycombe look like a footballing side to me suggests they arent exactly a Guardiola team ? I am fully expecting them to be even more direct than a Allardyce team with Kevin Davies up top, I would bring Forsyth in for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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