Zag zig Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boycie said: Wasn’t it Warne who sent him away? Could be wrong. Definitely L.R. He went start of the season before Warne, who said a few weeks back Barker had been in contact with Carlisle, (presumably Simmo?)but he was yet to speak to him at that time. Reckon unless Warne can’t get anyone else and/or feels we’re desperate for cover; he’ll let him stay unless he thinks like Osula with us, it’s doing him no good being there. Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Be nice to see him get a season under his belt without the constant niggling injuries. That would at least provide a decent sample upon which to judge him. He looked a natural born poacher with the title winning U23s side. angieram, Premier ram and Ramarena 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 17 hours ago, Rich3478 said: If he can’t get in Carlisles starting eleven though it perhaps raises a question on the validity of your stat. Because he's injury prone, rather than just not being good enough. Bennett was one of our most prolific goal contributors under Lampard, but his body couldn't handle playing more than he did. He only played the equivalent to 14 full games that season, but finished with 3 goals and 4 assists. I said at the start of the season he needs a full season out on loan, but still needs to be managed carefully. Due to Carlisle's' form over the first 7 games he had to wait for a chance. He got it, then after a series of starts (some full 90s) he picked up an injury. Overall, he's getting about as much football as I would expect. if he came back, he wouldn't get quite as much football, but I certainly would expect him to have a greater impact off the bench than Osula had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Overall, he's getting about as much football as I would expect. if he came back, he wouldn't get quite as much football, but I certainly would expect him to have a greater impact off the bench than Osula had. Based on what? I'd think he have similar impact, but different. Edited January 6, 2023 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Based on what? I'd think he have similar impact, but different. There's their actual record for us coming off the bench in league games. Osula Sub apps = 13 Sub mins = 199 Goals = 0 Assists = 0 Yellow cards = 0 Red cards = 1 Stretton Sub apps = 8 Sub mins = 225 Goals = 1 Assists = 0 Yellow cards = 1 Red cards = 0 Also note, Stretton's appearances were all in the Championship in a struggling side, whereas Osula was in a L1 side pushing for promotion. There's also Stretton's end product at every level: U18s = 27 goal contributions in 39 games (1 per 104 mins) U19s = 5 goal contributions in 6 games (1 per 92 mins) U21/23s = 16 goal contributions in 25 games (1 per 110 mins) Stockport = 3 goal contributions in 5 games (1 per 82 mins) Carlisle= 5 goal contributions in 23 games (1 per 210 mins) Derby = 2 goal contributions in 16 games (1 per 240 mins) lrm14, InstaRam and Carl Sagan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: There's their actual record for us coming off the bench in league games. Osula Sub apps = 13 Sub mins = 199 Goals = 0 Assists = 0 Yellow cards = 0 Red cards = 1 Stretton Sub apps = 8 Sub mins = 225 Goals = 1 Assists = 0 Yellow cards = 1 Red cards = 0 Also note, Stretton's appearances were all in the Championship in a struggling side, whereas Osula was in a L1 side pushing for promotion. There's also Stretton's end product at every level: U18s = 27 goal contributions in 39 games (1 per 104 mins) U19s = 5 goal contributions in 6 games (1 per 92 mins) U21/23s = 16 goal contributions in 25 games (1 per 110 mins) Stockport = 3 goal contributions in 5 games (1 per 82 mins) Carlisle= 5 goal contributions in 23 games (1 per 210 mins) Derby = 2 goal contributions in 16 games (1 per 240 mins) So pretty similar and neither enough to make much of a difference. Better for Stretton stay put and try and get regular game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: So pretty similar and neither enough to make much of a difference. Better for Stretton stay put and try and get regular game time. You could interpret it that way, but I'll also reiterate Stretton's appearances were all in the Championship in a struggling side, whereas Osula was in a L1 side pushing for promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: You could interpret it that way, but I'll also reiterate Stretton's appearances were all in the Championship in a struggling side, whereas Osula was in a L1 side pushing for promotion. You could suggest that a player gets more time on the ball in the Championship. But in the end neither of them made much difference coming off the bench. He's not good enough to stake a claim in front of Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: You could suggest that a player gets more time on the ball in the Championship. But in the end neither of them made much difference coming off the bench. He's not good enough to stake a claim in front of Collins. If he's in front of Collins he'd be off side all the time ? Hans Datdo-Dishes, InstaRam, i-Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstaRam Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Really wouldn't write Stretton of since he looks to be a "confidence player" to me. Had some bad luck for a while but my fingers crossed for him to find some good luck again because i really like him as a Ram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I wish I saw the promise people see in Stretton. I just don’t get it. You’d really want to be standing out in league two at the age of 21 if wanting to play higher too. What exactly is his strength? Hold up play, pace, finishing, work rate? also regarding his playing time, if we signed someone from Carlisle who‘d scored 2 in 8 starts and 9 sun appearances people would lose their minds. therealhantsram, The Scarlet Pimpernel, S8TY and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Left on a permanent deal. Shame he didn’t kick on in the way some of his academy teammates did but I wish him all the best. Edited January 7, 2023 by Caerphilly Ram Premier ram, RadioactiveWaste, Indyram and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Shame that. Always remember his goal against Posh. Thought he looked decent I suppose but hard to judge, not sure he would of ever been a regular starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Shame he looked a player proper goalscorer injuries scuppered his chances here...... Best of luck Jack. Premier ram, 48 hours and RadioactiveWaste 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 can’t wait for magicman in here. Unless he’s already on the Stockport forum. 48 hours, Comrade 86, Caerphilly Ram and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Srg said: can’t wait for magicman in here. Unless he’s already on the Stockport forum. Beat me to it. He'll still be cracking one off Comrade 86, LazloW, Ramarena and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Any fee? Suspect not but most be a very small saving in wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Bit gutted, but injury record wasn't great and he struggled to take his chances. I was excited about Stretton, just like I was for Charles Vernam and Callum Guy. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. 48 hours, Caerphilly Ram, Ram@Lincoln and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Poynton ram said: Any fee? Suspect not but most be a very small saving in wages Their tweet says undisclosed fee. Probably tiny but has some sell on clauses. RadioactiveWaste and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Srg said: Their tweet says undisclosed fee. Probably tiny but has some sell on clauses. I know times are hard but did Vitality only offer half the shirt sponsor money required? 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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