Magicman Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 55 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'm not saying the opposite. I'm telling you the factual maximum number of minutes you have seen Stretton in the first team. Is the Beglian 2nd division better than L2? I've never watched football in that league so can only guess at "no". He isn't too small for a Warne side, as pointed out by others. You're quick to move the goal posts to "Dobbin is faster" and "Ogbene is more experienced". As I previously stated in a different thread about other academy players, your judgement on youngsters is abysmal and cannot be taken seriously. So you claim he is first team standard here .... lets see whose judgement is right next season ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: I'm not saying the opposite. I'm telling you the factual maximum number of minutes you have seen Stretton in the first team. Is the Beglian 2nd division better than L2? I've never watched football in that league so can only guess at "no". He isn't too small for a Warne side, as pointed out by others. You're quick to move the goal posts to "Dobbin is faster" and "Ogbene is more experienced". As I previously stated in a different thread about other academy players, your judgement on youngsters is abysmal and cannot be taken seriously. I wouldn’t bother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava75 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 17/10/2022 at 18:52, Magicman said: So you claim he is first team standard here .... lets see whose judgement is right next season ?? Your judgement may yet prove correct - but the way you seem to take delight in one of our academy not hitting the mark is what comes across as lacking any class. Be consistent with your view, you make very general sweeping statements about him - eg too small for CF in a Paul Warne side …..which when challenged you then slightly change the approach. If you’d said “he’s not overly tall, lacks explosive pace or trickery” that may seem a more reasoned assessment and underpin your view. This forum is about opinions - and if you’re opinion is that he won’t make it as a consistent performer in Derby’s first team then that’s great - people will respect that. Just do us a favour and don’t make it appear that you take delight in him not doing that ?? Comrade 86, Gaspode, sage and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Dava75 said: Your judgement may yet prove correct - but the way you seem to take delight in one of our academy not hitting the mark is what comes across as lacking any class. Be consistent with your view, you make very general sweeping statements about him - eg too small for CF in a Paul Warne side …..which when challenged you then slightly change the approach. If you’d said “he’s not overly tall, lacks explosive pace or trickery” that may seem a more reasoned assessment and underpin your view. This forum is about opinions - and if you’re opinion is that he won’t make it as a consistent performer in Derby’s first team then that’s great - people will respect that. Just do us a favour and don’t make it appear that you take delight in him not doing that ?? Never said that just don't rate but other people add their own perceptions which is the right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Got a great assist and won a penalty as the weekend... Premier ram, Ghost of Clough, sage and 6 others 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 How’s he doing I wonder ? If he’s got a bit stronger I can’t help feeling he could feed off McG’s hold up play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, jono said: How’s he doing I wonder ? If he’s got a bit stronger I can’t help feeling he could feed off McG’s hold up play Two goals, two assists in 18 games. I think we probably need better than him. Shame, because he’s home grown and seems a game trier. Maybe he’s a late developer. Some forwards seem to suddenly strike a purple patch in their mid to late twenties. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, jono said: How’s he doing I wonder ? If he’s got a bit stronger I can’t help feeling he could feed off McG’s hold up play 2 goals and 2 assists from 9 starts and 10 sub appearances. Hasn't started a game since October. jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I personally don’t think he will make the grade and will eventually be released. I hope I am wrong and take no pleasure in thinking this. Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott129 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Didn't he go through a patch of good form with them though? I remember seeing a few fans of theirs being really complimentary about him on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Anag Ram said: Two goals, two assists in 18 games. I think we probably need better than him. Shame, because he’s home grown and seems a game trier. Maybe he’s a late developer. Some forwards seem to suddenly strike a purple patch in their mid to late twenties. 2 goals and 3 assists in 804 minutes in the league (1 every 161 minutes) For comparison, our top 5 in the league so far are: 1. McGoldrick - 106 2. Mendez-Laing - 180 3. Osula - 221 4. Collins - 229 5. Hourihane - 235 InstaRam, strawhillram and Crewton 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 2 goals and 3 assists in 804 minutes in the league (1 every 161 minutes) For comparison, our top 5 in the league so far are: 1. McGoldrick - 106 2. Mendez-Laing - 180 3. Osula - 221 4. Collins - 229 5. Hourihane - 235 If he can’t get in Carlisles starting eleven though it perhaps raises a question on the validity of your stat. Magicman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rich3478 said: If he can’t get in Carlisles starting eleven though it perhaps raises a question on the validity of your stat. He's had a few small injuries. Same as when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I can't say that I've ever seen anything from Stretton than makes me think "We need him back and he'll go on to be an important player for Derby" so far. What I've seen is a lot of desire and no shortage of effort, but a lack of ability to take chances or to stay fit for an extended period of time. I'd love to think we've got a gem on our hands but I just can't see it. Maybe I'm wrong, I've been wrong before loads of times. Jimbo Ram and S8TY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 He won't make it at our level let alone at Carlisle. richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Magicman said: He won't make it at our level let alone at Carlisle. Sad but probably true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Sad but probably true Paul simpson rates so he must have something about him I think warn could work.with him I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Paul simpson rates so he must have something about him I think warn could work.with him I am sure. Wasn’t it Warne who sent him away? Could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boycie said: Wasn’t it Warne who sent him away? Could be wrong. No laim did before he left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, B4ev6is said: No laim did before he left Well ok, maybe he will be alright then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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