Rich84 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 For all the deserved praise we heap on WR for last season, is anyone else concerned that 3 days after Liam praises the work of the analyst Shuttleworth, that he leaves and is rumoured to be off to join WR at DC United? Sounds like he's had a massive influence on the recruitment and could be a huge loss CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkRam Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Wonder if his move back to DC will prompt Mr Clowes to speed up the process of officially appointing Liam as manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I can't see this working out for long, him and his family on opposite sides of the Atlantic sea. That said i wish him luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Nothing but respect for what Rooney did whilst he was here - kept the club together whilst everything was falling apart around him. Strange move though especially as he wanted to spend more time with his family. Didn't the recent court case mention relationship problems between him and Colleen? Not sure living on the other side of the Atlantic is the cure to that but good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 hours ago, I am Ram said: I can't see this working out for long, him and his family on opposite sides of the Atlantic sea. That said i wish him luck. Eye Eye Cap'n...I see an Iceberg ahead I am Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 This. Nishfan and Wolfie20 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 A little bit of honesty can go a long way ? https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-wayne-rooney-exit-7328240 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Except he didn't 'literally' leave when the takeover was announced. That is just false. You are the one who are lying. I just can't get my head around why fans are now criticising Rooney over his decision. They spent all season commending his loyalty to the club and saying 'i can't believe he hasn't walked yet, who would blame him if he did.' And then when he finally does decide that he's had enough, he gets attacked. Bizarre. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 It was an odd decision to walk when he did i.e., when the mess was all but sorted. There was always talk of him being too close to the Kirchner bid and he did very publicly back it. Rooney's time is mixed, he had a borderline disgraceful time in the shirt at the back end of his stint and the beginning of his managerial career here was catastrophically bad producing the worst set of performances since the Phil Brown days of 05-06. However, this season he managed to inspire us to try and defy the impossible, possibly helping out with wages and equipment and kept us going when all seemed lost. I think he has tarnished his reputation leaving in this manner and it certainly does leave a sour taste tbh. The idea he wasn't talking to them as soon as Kirchner fell apart seems naive in the extreme to me too. Srg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty1986 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 So clearly there were cogs whirring in the background whilst he was still employed here. Does that represent some kind of terrible betrayal on his part? Of course not, it's the reality of how football/life works. He had alternative employment options open to him, which should come as a surprise to precisely nobody, he's Wayne Rooney. That's without even entering into a discussion about whether keeping Rooney as manager in League One was ever a remotely viable option. Do I believe Rooney genuinely cared for this club and it's fanbase whilst here? Yes definitely. Do I believe his PR team advised that sticking around until the end of last season was a no lose situation from a brand Rooney perspective? Also yes. Derby go down, it's not his fault, everybody (rightfully) admires the character of the man for seeing it through regardless. His stock is high. Derby stay up, the man is seen as the second coming of Jesus. His stock is high. A move back to the MLS appears at face value to be a money/branding decision rather than a choice centred around managerial progression. We now have a new owner, a new manager/squad and hopefully a bright new dawn to enjoy. Good luck and best wishes to Wayne. Rammy03 and curb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 There’s no way we will be due any compensation………Stretford and Rooney will have made sure of that. The timing of his departure stunk almost as much as his cheerleading for Kirchner. Time to move on..there is a new dawn breaking for our club, let’s make it a good one! kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Maybe the alleged months players wages paid could be the settlement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Kieran Maguire on his podcast this morning apparently said that his sources, DCFC were paying Rooney something like £865k a year as manager. According to his information, Kirchner offered him more than that to sign a three year contract at Derby, which is excessive for a L1 manager, so you do wonder if DC had made it clear that he couldn't pay that much and perhaps that was one reason why Rooney felt deflated by KIrchner's bid failing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 14/07/2022 at 14:56, Crewton said: Kieran Maguire on his podcast this morning apparently said that his sources, DCFC were paying Rooney something like £865k a year as manager. According to his information, Kirchner offered him more than that to sign a three year contract at Derby, which is excessive for a L1 manager, so you do wonder if DC had made it clear that he couldn't pay that much and perhaps that was one reason why Rooney felt deflated by KIrchner's bid failing? This has more than a ring of truth about it. Also possible that he was involved in the Stretford CK funding shenanigans, and that his conduct there contributed to the departure btw, how is it that we now know about the clause in his DC contract that says he can leave if the PL comes knocking ? I’d have thought it was a confidential provision (and DC certainly would not have leaked it). Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 13/07/2022 at 16:57, matty1986 said: Do I believe his PR team advised that sticking around until the end of last season was a no lose situation from a brand Rooney perspective? Also yes. Warnock was the only pundit who was brave enough to say this from what I heard. He basically said: ‘Rooney’s got the easiest job in the Championship, a free hit”. There was an embarrassed silence in the studio - all the other pundits had been rabbiting foolishly on about what a difficult job he had, how he was showing immense loyalty simply by staying. It was tosh, skilfully manufactured by a hefty PR effort which comically earned him the freedom of the city. Embarrassing. Rooney deserves a lot of credit for recruiting and motivation. But I still think we had a team last season that, well handled, was quite capable of staying up. And the truth is we weren’t even close. Tom Lawrence as skipper are you kidding ? Ramarena, Anon and Wolfie 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Warnock was the only pundit who was brave enough to say this from what I heard. He basically said: ‘Rooney’s got the easiest job in the Championship, a free hit”. There was an embarrassed silence in the studio - all the other pundits had been rabbiting foolishly on about what a difficult job he had, how he was showing immense loyalty simply by staying. It was tosh, skilfully manufactured by a hefty PR effort which comically earned him the freedom of the city. Embarrassing. Rooney deserves a lot of credit for recruiting and motivation. But I still think we had a team last season that, well handled, was quite capable of staying up. And the truth is we weren’t even close. Tom Lawrence as skipper are you kidding ? I wouldn't go as far as you have with the criticism. I honestly don't think anyone would have saved us from -21. I completely agree that last season was "a free hit" and it was a very smart move from brand Rooney to stick around. The truth is, it worked in terms of increasing his profile. Go to any mainstream football forum and you'll find it full of people wondering why Rooney took an MLS job when "he could have waited for a Premier League job". In what world does a manager who's only experience is getting relegated from the 2nd tier even get considered for a Premier League job? May Contain Nuts, kevinhectoring, Crewton and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 On 13/07/2022 at 16:21, Rammy03 said: Except he didn't 'literally' leave when the takeover was announced. That is just false. You are the one who are lying. But didn’t he resign on 24 June and Clowes named as preferred bidder on 26th? Not exactly “literally” but close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I'd never call working for a company in Administration an 'easy job', particularly in a position of responsibility. Rooney was having to deal with aspects of the club he would never have had to in a 'normal' situation, because of an absent owner and Administrators who are not, by nature, "people" people. He was never going to be criticised heavily by the fans for faling to keep us up, because most recognised he had his hands tied and had little control over the make-up of his playing squad, so in that respect it was a "no lose" situation, but easy? I don't believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: But didn’t he resign on 24 June and Clowes named as preferred bidder on 26th? Not exactly “literally” but close. Takeover was announced over a week after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: Takeover was announced over a week after Hang on tho, DC had already bought the ground - so he controlled the process - and he had announced an intention to buy the club. So Rooney’s claim that everything was still up in the air was absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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