PistoldPete Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, Crewton said: Wigan raised around £9.5M from player sales but, although they obviously got less than they would have if it hadn't been a fire-sale, they were helped by the fact that they hadn't been prevented from extending contracts for a significant period even before they went into administration, so they had allot more players with >12 months left on their contracts than we did. I'm pretty sure they didn't also have other club owners complaining to the EFL that they weren't selling their players cheaply enough. Wigan had to borrow money from their fans I believe so I cannot see how they could have proved funding to the end of season. yes they raised £10 million or so in fire sale .. well we have raised £4 million or so. So what ? they needed a buyer or they would have folded, I still don’t see why Wigan could extend contracts and sign free transfers and we cannot . jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Try double. Range of £15-20m depending on match tickets and sponsorship That's excellent if correct and I know you usually are pretty accurate with this stuff. Do you have time to list your build up. I would be interested. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 11 hours ago, B4ev6is said: He might want to stay mate I met him after the game after fulham someone asked him how he was and then asked him do you want to stay and he said yes but of course out of his hands. Hope so, I doubt we could afford his wages but you never know. He’s a great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, rammieib said: Pretty sure we'd need to lose 3 players or more to have games cancelled. Don't you believe it. Colchester got their's postponed for one first team player and two under 15s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: That's excellent if correct and I know you usually are pretty accurate with this stuff. Do you have time to list your build up. I would be interested. There will be a massive drop in T V money. That’s why the average wage in Div 1 is around £3k a week . The EFL will want to see a sensible wage structure in place before those numpties ok it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Wigan had to borrow money from their fans I believe so I cannot see how they could have proved funding to the end of season. yes they raised £10 million or so in fire sale .. well we have raised £4 million or so. So what ? they needed a buyer or they would have folded, I still don’t see why Wigan could extend contracts and sign free transfers and we cannot . £10M is 2.5x £4M, so that's part of your answer. Their wage bill on relegation was also only £12M, which they reduced substantially, so the amount req'd per month to run the club was much less than ours. The fans raised an initial £500K and later a further £200K. I can't find any information about though what hoops they had to jump through to get EFL approval to contest the 20/21 season and sign players, or whether they were allowed to sell season tickets. Their debts were also a fraction of ours though - £3M to the taxman only, apparently. There's allot of unanswered questions for sure, but Wigan's case was very different to ours. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Crewton said: £10M is 2.5x £4M, so that's part of your answer. Their wage bill on relegation was also only £12M, which they reduced substantially, so the amount req'd per month to run the club was much less than ours. The fans raised an initial £500K and later a further £200K. I can't find any information about though what hoops they had to jump through to get EFL approval to contest the 20/21 season and sign players, or whether they were allowed to sell season tickets. Their debts were also a fraction of ours though - £3M to the taxman only, apparently. There's allot of unanswered questions for sure, but Wigan's case was very different to ours. Having a wage bill of £12 m on relegation to league one is not a good place when you have gates the size of Wigan, so sure they needed to reduce the wage bill big time. Like I say they needed to find a buyer or else they would have folded, and Although both income and expenditure for Derby are bigger i don't see the difference and why we have been treated the way we have, with no signings allowed since going into admin, or even extending contracts. As ever the problem is with these EFL rules there is no transparency , EFL just seem to make it up as they go along. Crewton, SaffyRam and Eatonram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Having a wage bill of £12 m on relegation to league one is not a good place when you have gates the size of Wigan, so sure they needed to reduce the wage bill big time. Like I say they needed to find a buyer or else they would have folded, and Although both income and expenditure for Derby are bigger i don't see the difference and why we have been treated the way we have, with no signings allowed since going into admin, or even extending contracts. As ever the problem is with these EFL rules there is no transparency , EFL just seem to make it up as they go along. One factor that I've just remembered is that they only introduced the more extensive and structured embargo conditions that we have been operating under in June of 2021. I said at the time that they looked specifically constructed to cripple DCFC, or at least were conveniently written in a way that ensured we were completely hamstrung. Wigan were obviously only restricted by the less punitive embargo rules that were in place during their administration. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 BuckoBeast, IslandExile, strawhillram and 11 others 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: CK may annoy people as he can be a bit ‘forward’ on twitter. But it’s nice to hear regular update. I’m all for it CK’s Barmy Army Carnero, IslandExile, Adslegend and 8 others 3 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Can’t believe the admins are holding it up *rolls eyes* half joking Mostyn6 and SaffyRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Brilliant guy! I see the Mike Ashley fans have kept quiet whilst CK shows everyone how to be a proper chairman. IslandExile, Ramifications, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Waiting on the Administrators (shock horror...) be waiting a while Chris they’re probably still opening their Easter eggs. Joking of course, can’t imagine it would be a quick process to finalise the waterfall payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: Lovely. Animal is a Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alty_Ram Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 What's all this fancy new-fangled 'communicating with the fans' nonsense. It'll never catch on.. Miggins, Ram@Lincoln, Dordogne-Ram and 11 others 2 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 27 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said: I’m starting to feel slightly more confident about this. With all the false dawns at Derby I feel like I’ve been jilted at the alter about 20 times and this time im finally at the airport waiting for the flight for our honeymoon - but it’s still like I met my wife online and we married virtually and plan to meet in Barbados - will she be there?! Should we have gone to the Maldives instead?! So many many questions. In all seriousness, I’m intrigued when we are likely to hear more from Garry Cook. Mostyn6, GenBr and Animal is a Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ramos said: I’m starting to feel slightly more confident about this. With all the false dawns at Derby I feel like I’ve been jilted at the alter about 20 times and this time im finally at the airport waiting for the flight for our honeymoon - but it’s still like I met my wife online and we married virtually and plan to meet in Barbados - will she be there?! Should we have gone to the Maldives instead?! So many many questions. In all seriousness, I’m intrigued when we are likely to hear more from Garry Cook. Agree so very much. When we hear from Gary Cook, I think that's when it is all but the ink dry on the deal. Right now he is the Cheif Exec in waiting, his first words will be: Oi Pearson, out my chair. DavesaRam, David Graham Brown, Kathcairns and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gritstone Tup said: Brilliant guy! I see the Mike Ashley fans have kept quiet whilst CK shows everyone how to be a proper chairman. He aint yet, But as I was/am an MA advocate. Rah Rah Rah...Mike Ashley Rah Rah Rah...Mike Ashley Rah Rah Rah...Mike Ashley Sung in a very loud voice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRevolution Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 what does 'finalizing the waterfall' mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, Gritstone Tup said: Brilliant guy! I see the Mike Ashley fans have kept quiet whilst CK shows everyone how to be a proper chairman. Nope. Not keeping quiet. But CK has exclusivity so all he has to do is come up with the money and he's the Man. #geddit jimtastic56, S8TY and Derby4Me 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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